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12 September, 2008 | joanie-f

Posted on 09/11/2008 10:57:32 PM PDT by joanie-f

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1 posted on 09/11/2008 10:57:32 PM PDT by joanie-f
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To: betty boop; tet68; Quix; del4hope; B4Ranch; Smokin' Joe; TigersEye; EternalVigilance; ...
Insights solicited, pro or con. :)

~ joanie

2 posted on 09/11/2008 10:59:38 PM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f

I thought tonight’s summit on Service settled the issue. All we need is more Serfdom, er, Service, and everything’ll be alright.

How come the networks never air summits on how government service makes things worse? How come evertything that features politicians gets media coverage. Wait, before you answer that the media is the government’s watchdog, remember, press coverage only lends them legitimacy. I want to live in a world where people realize that the world is moved by an extended order of unconscious cooperation, and that all the government does is step in at the end of the process and move around the pieces.


3 posted on 09/11/2008 11:06:17 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: joanie-f

Well done.

The Roman Empire subsisted for four centuries on bread and circuses. It looks like our leaders are following their model.

America seems to have peaked some time between 1965 when Johnson debased the coinage and sought to make government dependents of the poor, and 1970 when Nixon canceled the Apollo program and adopted a strategy of deceit and defeat in Indochina.

Leaders since then have tried, sometimes heroically, to arrest the decline but the institutional rot has set in and I can find no historical precedent for reversing the trend.


4 posted on 09/11/2008 11:25:02 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: joanie-f

Excellent, Joanie! You make some very valid points that I hadn’t considered, and some that have angered us conservatives for years. Thanks for the ping.


5 posted on 09/11/2008 11:39:26 PM PDT by Minuteman23
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To: joanie-f
I agree. We saw the pep-rally going during the Republican Primaries, and it is still here. My only reservation about Sarah Palin, who seems to be genuine, is that she will not wield the pen that makes the stroke that becomes 'law of the land' or vetoes a bill.

Instead, I get the impression that a candidate many found to be an honorable serviceman turned politician and thought by a significant proportion of the Conservative electorate to be only palatable in light of the Socialist alternative has dropped off the radar.

He is conveniently upstaged, as is his position on Amnesty, the First Amendment, and a host of other issues which rendered him far less than desireable were there a viable alternative.

We know she is pro-gun, but where does he stand, exactly, even as judges are parsing Heller to uphold virtually any restriction on a right which "shall not be infringed".

Multiply the vagueness surrounding the nominee by the number of issues and you have what we are not hearing about from the candidate.

The tabloid atmosphere surrounding the election further promotes the disappearance from discussion of the very liberal policy history of the more Conservative of the major party candidates--not to mention any but the most vague references to his opponent's specific stance on any issues but 'hope and change'.

This seems like lean fare upon which to make an informed decision, and is made worse by the outrageous distortions of the media when some matter of substance leaks through the fluff and nonsense they publish.

Add in an electorate either virulently partisan or too distracted to be paying any more attention than they must, and it is likely that the next 'leader of the free world' will be decided by people who will figure out who they will vote for by counting road signs on the way to the polls.

6 posted on 09/12/2008 12:14:31 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: joanie-f
Most conservatives decry the ‘bread and circuses’ atmosphere of modern politics, principally because the consistent focus on meaningless pursuits takes the citizens’ focus away from the important issues … even crises … that must be considered, and faced, if we are to remain a free society.

I'm afraid that one of the most important issues, a crisis even, is the ignorance of the foundations of this nation. It is difficult to have a serious political discourse in this nation when 90% of the electorate don't really have a clue as to what the founders intended.

It would be nice if important issues were addressed during an election but it's really not the time for education. Both sides are intent on winning and victory will go to the one who fights hardest, smartest and best. But the fight has to be waged on the ground we find ourselves on.

The left has fought hard to pull all discourse onto this "bread and circuses" field of battle. Sure, Republicans have gladly played the cheap and dirty game too but don't kid yourself. The left has to drag things away from real issues and into platitudes and scandals because their agenda is to do away with the republic for which we stand.

I'm not saying you are wrong. You are exactly right and, as usual, you hit all the points with precision and eloquence. I don't even like McCain enough to root for him but this 0bama turd needs to be sent back to his jr. seat in the Senate.

On that score I have to give John McCain props for running a winning campaign that started from behind. Right now at least I think he's demonstrating an ability to lead and command. He is taking the Chosen One apart very skillfully. First he had to deal with the Plastic Fantastic media construction of a candidate that 0bama was. McCain has done that. Perhaps now he can force 0bama to fight on his ground. A more serious ground. Sarah Palin sure laid out the geography of the battle field.

That's my two cents.

7 posted on 09/12/2008 12:46:21 AM PDT by TigersEye (Buckhead of the Bikini-clad Barracuda)
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To: joanie-f
Most excellent! I've got my mind on other things right now, like a little blow out in the Gulf, with some of my people in harm's way; grandbabies amongst 'em. Living in a place with an elevation of under 15' with an imminent storm surge of 20' accompanied by 25' - 30' waves; it doesn't take a rocket scientist to do the math. UPDATE: One just called and said they're on there way outta there(w/3 grandbabies)! The other 2 grandbabies are headed to the Dallas area with son-in-law. One daughter can't leave - ER nurse who unfortunately was on the schedule. BUT she will be staying at the hospital which is more or less high and dry. Whew!

Maybe I can get some sleep now. In fact, I've all of a sudden gotten really sleepy so I'll just make a quick point and run on. I would REALLY appreciate you putting your considerable writing talents to a "states' rights" piece. Nothing will change in D.C. until we wrest the power away from them and somehow get it back in the states where it belongs.

Goodnight, er, good morning...

8 posted on 09/12/2008 4:47:39 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Add in an electorate either virulently partisan or too distracted to be paying any more attention than they must, and it is likely that the next 'leader of the free world' will be decided by people who will figure out who they will vote for by counting road signs on the way to the polls.

Your entire post is very well conceived and expressed, and there's not a word with which I disagree.

I am far from pleased with the man at the top of the ticket, primarily because I vehemently disagree with the theory behind, and the ramifications of, McCain-Feingold, and because of his stance on illegal immigration/amnesty -- but also because his views on so many other important issues (chief among them, the right to keep and bear arms and the pseudo-need to address global warming) are troubling or unclear.

As for your comment above, that is precisely why the 'get out the vote' campaigns are appalling. If a citizen needs to be prodded to go to the voting booth, then perhaps he shouldn't be voting at all.

~ joanie

9 posted on 09/12/2008 5:48:29 AM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f
Yeah yeah I agree theres things afoote that would rankle the hair on a dogs back..

What I want to know is how did the arch weasle John McLaim become the "conservative" candidate for President.. instead of the obvious conservatives.. I have been clapping and clapping for Sara Palin the last few days.. until it dawned on me that I've been slipped a "mickey".. I've been BRAIN WASHED... Just like with voting first for the idiot George Bush against the cretin Al Gore then to top that off I voted for the known idiot George Bush over an obvious traitor and lying sack of you know what AGAIN.. And NOW I'am willing to vote for the arch weasle John McLaim over another empty suit masquerading as KingFish from Amos n' Andy..

(looking into the mirror.. I don't look right)..
To self: I may be drugged or brain washed.. I never was too smart... Heck I voted for George Bush twice his father a few times and even his brother when I lived in Florida.. Who chooses the opponents for these liberal republican candidates anyway?.. I know.. maybe I'm a SHeeple... thats it.. I'm a sheeple.. And have the "bleating" government I deserve..

10 posted on 09/12/2008 5:50:35 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Tublecane
I thought tonight’s summit on Service settled the issue. All we need is more Serfdom, er, Service, and everything’ll be alright.

I love well-placed sarcasm. :)

I watched the 'summit' tonight, until I heard Barack Obama begin talking about his plans to have 'government work in conjuction with' the people of America in order to provide for the less fortunate. Anyone with half a brain knows that that altruistic phrasing simply justifies the continuing incremental imposition of his socialist utopia.

'Government working in conjunction with the people' simply boils down to income redistribution at the point of a gun.

You may already be familiar with it, but Davey Crockett (of all people), delivered a stirring speech on the floor of the House regarding Congress' usurpation of power in that regard. Even though the speech was delivered nearly two hundred years ago, I've yet to read a more accurate, hard-hitting analysis of the subject.

Thanks for the excellent insights.

~ joanie

11 posted on 09/12/2008 6:01:44 AM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f

Decent points.

And, I’d be disappointed to see our side err tooooo much with such stuff.

On the other hand, some folks don’t even wake-up, much less pay attention until one speaks their language.

Not that THAT should excuse wholesale stooping to their level.

Certainly there are dozens and dozens of hugely important crises here and looming which the globalists are very skillful at distracting from with the bread, brainwashing and circuses routines.


12 posted on 09/12/2008 6:07:04 AM PDT by Quix (POL LDRS GLOBALIST QUOTES: #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
Leaders since then have tried, sometimes heroically, to arrest the decline but the institutional rot has set in and I can find no historical precedent for reversing the trend.

I suspect you're familiar with the eighteenth-century historian, Alexander Tytler's, description of the inevitable, self-destructive cyle of all the world's democracies (not that we are one, mind you, but we're close enough):

As I see it, we're sitting at the penultimate stage. And, as you say, it's the historical inevitability of it all that's so maddening.

~ joanie

13 posted on 09/12/2008 6:08:26 AM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: Minuteman23

Thanks for the kind words, MM. :)


14 posted on 09/12/2008 6:09:26 AM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: TigersEye
I'm afraid that one of the most important issues, a crisis even, is the ignorance of the foundations of this nation. It is difficult to have a serious political discourse in this nation when 90% of the electorate don't really have a clue as to what the founders intended.

Beautifully said!

Whenever a friend tells me that he believes 'the American people' will rise up in defiance when the enemies of liberty cross the final line, I am forced to remind him that 'the American people' aren't what they used to be, as a result of your observation above.

For fifty years our public education system has been incrementally hijacked by left-leaning ideologues, with the result being that American history, if taught at all, is assuming an increasingly revisionist bent.

Each succeeding generation of American youth knows less and less about their noble roots, or has been indoctrinated with anti-American lies.

Adding to that the fact that we continue to allow the invasion of illegal immigration that is pouring across our southern border -- people who either bear no allegiance to this country, or, worse yet, seek its destruction -- and the percentage of the population that knows from whence we came is decreasing with every passing day.

As our liberties continue to be stolen from us, each succeeding generation sees government intrusion as a fact of life. You can't mourn the loss of something you never knew.

~ joanie

15 posted on 09/12/2008 6:18:04 AM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: ForGod'sSake
FGS, I am so sorry to hear that so many of your family members are in Ike's path. Please know that my husband and I will keep them in our prayers over the next few days and weeks. And please let me know (if only by private reply) how they are doing as the storm progresses.

God's blessings to you and yours ...

~ joanie

16 posted on 09/12/2008 6:21:04 AM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: hosepipe
I often feel as you do. Your combination of hope and anger is shared by many genuine conservatives.

I wrote the following on another thread recently, as to how I am able to justify supporting the Republican ticket:

We may well be in for a tragic four years no matter who wins this election, unless McCain recognizes that it was the genuine gun-toting, church-going heart of the republican party that put him into office ... and that he owes them ... and that he had better make a sharp right turn if he expects not to lose their support during his term in office.

He did, after all, select one of them as his running mate. Neither you nor I is fool enough to believe he did that because he and Palin are kindred spirits/ideological soul-mates. He did that because he knew he couldn’t win without us. And he must know he will lose us, once again, if he returns to RINO business as usual.

At the same time, I am not, and never have been, a Pollyanna. If I were taking bets, I’d bet that Sarah Palin will wield only as much power in a McCain administration as she is able to demand. Significant power will not be delegated to her, but neither is she one who will be content with thumb-twiddling. And I’d also be willing to bet that, should McCain win, November 5th will not mark a right turn of any significance in his ideology.

With that said ...

As I see it we are faced with the election of Obama/Biden, which might well spell the end of freedom and sovereignty in America. It won’t take more than four years for that to occur under O/B.

Or we are faced with the election of McCain/Palin. That eventuality is entirely different than the election of McCain/AnyoneElse might have been.

As I have written on my blog countless times, I probably would have stayed home, or written in the name of Ronald Reagan in protest, on November 4th had I been faced with an Obama/Biden vs. McCain/AnyoneElse choice.

But what a difference two weeks can make.

Palin is a staunch right-wing ideologue. And an activist staunch right-wing ideologue – not simply a pundit/philosopher/orator. She has an extensive (considering the amount of time she has held office) list of resounding successes to show for her conservative activism. She’s a dying breed, for sure.

She will not allow herself to be a passive vice president. And she will make noise if she is ordered to assume that posture. And she will have every right to do so, because she will have played a pivotal (vast understatement) role in the election of John McCain.

John McCain is seventy-two years old. Sarah Palin is forty-four.

This no longer boils down to the quadrennial ‘voting for the lesser of two evils’ conundrum, which I have vowed never to be a party to again. For the first time in twenty-four years, we have a genuine conservative on the ballot. No, she is not in the top spot. But she is there. The Republican ticket contains a fighter who is willing ... in fact determined ... to reclaim America’s status as a ‘shining city on a hill’. And, no matter the odds against her succeeding, I’ll be damned if I won’t do everything within my power to provide her a chance to do so!

If she fails ... if she is prevented from making a difference ... it won’t be because I wasn’t willing to afford her the opportunity ... what I see as the last opportunity for a genuine conservative to reverse the course of our suicidal journey into oblivion.

~ joanie

17 posted on 09/12/2008 6:25:56 AM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: Quix
On the other hand, some folks don’t even wake-up, much less pay attention until one speaks their language.

Many of my conservative friends have said the same thing.

I do agree, to a point. But, if we resort to 'speaking their language', we're altering the playing field to their advantage. The left will always win a battle in which superficiality and deception are the weapons. We just don't have it in us to trump them in that regard.

I don't believe it's ever advantageous to give up the moral high ground, especially when confronting people who are longstanding experts at low-ground tactics.

~ joanie

18 posted on 09/12/2008 6:30:07 AM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f

Mostly agree about the moral high ground.

Just maybe not 100% in every case.

I think a lot of stuff is silly spoof level stuff.

Tossing some of that back and forth doesn’t compromise any moral high ground, to me.

But the line is thin in many places! LOL.

Thx.


19 posted on 09/12/2008 6:32:55 AM PDT by Quix (POL LDRS GLOBALIST QUOTES: #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: joanie-f
Very nice as usual, Joanie!

Thanks for the ping.

20 posted on 09/12/2008 6:42:39 AM PDT by SiliconValleyGuy
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