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Fort Worth Man Shoots, Kills Neighbor's Dogs
CBS11TV. Com (Dallas/Ft Worth) ^ | 8-26-08 | Katherine Blake

Posted on 08/26/2008 5:43:18 AM PDT by engrpat

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To: engrpat

Roaming pit bulls should always be killed. This was exactly the right thing to do.


141 posted on 08/26/2008 8:55:49 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: mysterio
Yankee mentality? Yeah, we don’t really dig killing other people’s pets up here, I guess. You guys have animal control down there?

What is your problem with this man defending himself, his family and his property from a dangerous dog?

142 posted on 08/26/2008 8:56:19 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Define yourself by what you do, not by your ideology, belief, origins, genitals, etc ....)
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To: John Williams
"So, what was doing at around 4 a.m.?"

Killing menaces. I don't think his neighbor would want to be very much of a problem given the outcome of this particular one.

143 posted on 08/26/2008 8:58:32 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Soothesayer

I had a similar situation...here’s how I dealt with it. I have a pool in the backyard. Wife one Sunday afternoon in the pool w/ the kids swimming. And we live way down a dirt road...maybe 6-7 houses. Fence gate to pool area was open as the wife was watering stuff. She taps on the window and I look out and I see a muscle bulging pitbull cruising around our pool with my then 2 year old boy and 6 year old daughter. I tell the wife to get in the pool with the kids and stay in there. If it jumps in...drown it.

I get a rake and walk outside. I own many weapons and didn’t get one then. I simply walked toward the dog and guided him to the gate. He wouldn’t let me get close. Wouldn’t show any emotion through wagging. Got him outside the gate and walked him up the driveway and out and gone.

No clue who’s dog it was...just shut all the gates and it was done.

Fast forward 3 months after that. Same pit shows up wandering around dragging a freaking logging chain. Comes in yard. Get kids in house and guide the dog off again using a rake. 2nd time. Guy shows up later on a fourwheeler and asks about a dog. Got the “he’d never hurt anyone” speech. Really? I don’t give a s**t. A pistol is perfectly harmless too. But I don’t go in YOUR yard and drop a loaded pistol so your kids can stumble upon it and play w/ it. A pitbull...even playing...can destroy a 2-7year old child.

Fast forward to 2 months ago. Pit shows up for a 3rd time and a boxer (that I’d confused as a pit type) come in my backyard w/ me there. Kids inside w/ wife. I lure them into the extra fenced back yard and put water and food out. I call Animal Control. I’d seriously considered just shooting them and be done with it. I’m glad I didn’t. Animal control shows up and gets both of them.

My new neighbours across the street came looking for the boxer and caught the officer before he left. They got the boxer back, and I told them I’d never seen the boxer before and didn’t have a problem with it. I had a problem w/ the pit. It all worked out. Pit removed...and hopefully destroyed. That thing was vicious when the AC officer was getting him.

Next time the pit shows up...I will be burying it.

We’re dog owners. I used to have a black & tan...a redbone...and we’ve had a few daschunds...even one now. So don’t paint all that look to protect their children as simple dog haters. If any of my dogs ever attacked the children in what I feel is malicious...I’d put it down in a heartbeat.


144 posted on 08/26/2008 9:02:11 AM PDT by jamz
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To: Centurion2000
Were the dogs attacking someone? Do you have documentation to show that these particular dogs have attacked people in the past?

Or were they just digging under the fence and Mr. tough guy wanted to make good on his threat?

I suspect it's the latter.

The second dog was shot in its own backyard.

Book this idiot.
145 posted on 08/26/2008 9:06:29 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: engrpat

If the dogs’ owner cared so much about them, he would have made sure they stayed in their own yard.


146 posted on 08/26/2008 9:06:31 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: engrpat

There is a happy medium, by the way: .22 snake shot. When I was a teenager, we had neighbors who kept an Afghan hound and let it run wild in our rural neighborhood. The fourth or fifth time I caught him ransacking our garbage can, I let him have it right in the ass with a .22 snake shot cartridge from about 20 feet away. He yelped all the way home. I am sure he came to no permanent harm, but he never set foot within a hundred yards of our property again.


147 posted on 08/26/2008 9:07:34 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: impeachedrapist
Keep trying to make me out as worse. :-D The best you can come up with for me is that I behaved the same way as Wyatt Earp. If he feared for his life, then I feared for mine. It's really that simple.

Actually, he feared for the life of his six-year-old daughter, knowing that he would not likely be there for her the next time the two Pit Bulls came into his back yard.

The more dangerous an animal you have, the greater responsibility you have to keep them away from other people and off of other people's property.

That a man would not be willing to endanger his children in order to give someone else multiple chances to restrain their animals doesn't strike me as unreasonable.

Different breeds of dogs have different dispositions, if they did not men would not have spent so much time and effort to create them. A Pit Bull is not a defacto killing machine, but the burden of proof is on the owner of the dog.

148 posted on 08/26/2008 9:17:02 AM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: John Williams
IF...

duh

149 posted on 08/26/2008 9:25:14 AM PDT by ValerieTexas
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To: mysterio
Were the dogs attacking someone? Do you have documentation to show that these particular dogs have attacked people in the past?

Here's a little piece of advice for pit bull owners.

Control your pets or other people will control them for you.

Or were they just digging under the fence and Mr. tough guy wanted to make good on his threat?

We take private property rights VERY seriously in Texas.

The second dog was shot in its own backyard.

YOU don't know that.

From the article.

Fort Worth Police are reviewing the case, but they say if the dogs were in the neighbor's yard when they were shot it's unlikely that any charges will be filed.

150 posted on 08/26/2008 9:27:20 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Define yourself by what you do, not by your ideology, belief, origins, genitals, etc ....)
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To: bvw
Are you of that group that says pit bulls are inherently dangerous?

They were bread to be. Just as pointers are bread to point and retrievers are bread to retrieve.

Not all Labs will instinctively chase a frisbee, but I'm not betting my child's life on someone's ability to train a Lab not to.

Am I unreasonable? Doesn't matter. I get to set the rules on my property. Thus, the owner of the Pit Bull has 100% of the burden to keep them away from my children.

151 posted on 08/26/2008 9:30:23 AM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: mysterio

The second dog was shot in its own backyard.................................................................................Read the article again, both dogs was in the shooters back yard..........................................................................................Do you have documentation to show that these particular dogs have attacked people in the past?...............................................................Do you need documentation thata burglar had never harmed previous victims before you shoot him?


152 posted on 08/26/2008 9:30:23 AM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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To: eastforker; mysterio

Just to clarify...............I didn’t think I was going to have to shoot him, because he seemed a little hesitant. But then he looked at the hole in the fence. I thought he was going to go back under, then he turned around and started coming at me and that’s when I shot him.”


153 posted on 08/26/2008 9:35:36 AM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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To: eastforker; mysterio

Just to clarify...............I didn’t think I was going to have to shoot him, because he seemed a little hesitant. But then he looked at the hole in the fence. I thought he was going to go back under, then he turned around and started coming at me and that’s when I shot him.”


154 posted on 08/26/2008 9:35:37 AM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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To: eastforker
One of the animals was found dead in Harrison's backyard. The other was found dead in its own backyard.

He shot the dog in its own backyard. He was being Mr. Tough Guy. Now he can hopefully be Mr. Tough Guy in jail.
155 posted on 08/26/2008 9:44:33 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Centurion2000
YOU don't know that.

From the article :

The other was found dead in its own backyard.

This dude doesn't have a leg to stand on. One dog came into his yard and he shot it and then shot the other in its own backyard to make good on his threat.

If one of your dogs enters my yard, may I also shoot the one in your backyard? You'd be cool with that?
156 posted on 08/26/2008 9:47:27 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio

I thought he was going to go back under, then he turned around and started coming at me and that’s when I shot him.”
...................................What is so hard to understand about the above statement? Do you think everything dies the moment it is shot? I once had a dog that had been shot but made it all the way to the back door before it died. I am prety sure he was up to no good and he damn sure wasn’t shot at my back door. That was back in the day when we lived in a very rural area with out a fenced yard, no telling what kind of mischief he got into.


157 posted on 08/26/2008 9:51:18 AM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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To: eastforker
What is so hard to understand about the above statement?

The other was found dead in its own backyard.

Do you think everything dies the moment it is shot?

A dog shot point blank by a shotgun usually doesn't do much traveling afterwards.

Of course the guy is going to say that the shotgun blasted dog managed to dig back under the fence after being fatally blasted by a shotgun. Sounds like bunk to me.
158 posted on 08/26/2008 9:59:57 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio
Where does it say he was shot at point blank. He didn't have to dig a hole to go back, they already done that. What in the story makes you think the shooter is lying? The dogs had been in his backyard previous to this, this was not the first time, the owner was warned and did nothing to control the dogs, what the hell is wrong with your thought process. Also take note the dogs were siblings, probably pretty close and probably did run together, dogs do that you know.
159 posted on 08/26/2008 10:06:49 AM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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To: eastforker
It was a shotgun. The entry was tight enough to kill the dogs rather than to just wound them. That means he was close.

Should be easy to determine where the dog was shot. Follow the blood trail.

He should have called animal control and reported the dogs.

If the dog was attacking a person or another animal, that's a different story. But this sounds more like someone being vindictive and mean.
160 posted on 08/26/2008 10:18:43 AM PDT by mysterio
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