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Alabama workers to pay for extra pounds [Fatties pay more for insurance]
MSNBC ^ | 8/21/08

Posted on 08/21/2008 5:26:15 PM PDT by mngran2

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To: mngran2

Good. I remember the fat bastards cheering when they decided to soak it to smokers. Let them pay for their lard-asses.


61 posted on 08/25/2008 4:58:02 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Who would McQueeg rather have mad at him: You or the liberals? FREE LAZAMATAZ!)
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To: GOP_Lady

People tell me I look like that dark skinned guy from NYPD Blue. I know who they are talking about but I don’t know his name.


62 posted on 08/25/2008 4:59:17 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

If I had a dollar for every overweight 300 pound heffer on a cell phone in a bar who waived their sausage like fingers in front of their face to blow away my smoke...and then dove back into their plate of fried cheese curds...I would have more money than Barack Obama.


63 posted on 08/25/2008 5:04:31 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

They’re the first to bitch to the management.


64 posted on 08/25/2008 5:08:22 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Who would McQueeg rather have mad at him: You or the liberals? FREE LAZAMATAZ!)
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To: Cyber Liberty

It can’t be just my imagination. I’m normal. Does this happen to you too? It’s the fat woman on the cell phone at TGIF yapping who gave me the biggest problems.

I was in a bad mood a couple of months before the smoking ban took effect in the Democratic People’s Republic of NJ in 2006. A fat woman asked when the ban took effect as she yapped about Bob breaking up with Nancy or whatever in a loud voice. I said “Maybe they should ban fat annoying women on cell phones.”

Of course, the equally large boyfriend/husband had to be the alpha male and confront me. I made a remark about White Castle and he threw a punch at me. Amateurs have such bad footwork. He threw a haymaker and I just sidestepped.

He fell on his face. I walked out.

Bitching to the management is one thing. Getting gubmint to do your dirty work is childish.


65 posted on 08/25/2008 5:19:14 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

It can’t be just my imagination. I’m normal. Does this happen to you too? It’s the fat woman on the cell phone at TGIF yapping who gave me the biggest problems.

I was in a bad mood a couple of months before the smoking ban took effect in the Democratic People’s Republic of NJ in 2006. A fat woman asked when the ban took effect as she yapped about Bob breaking up with Nancy or whatever in a loud voice. I said “Maybe they should ban fat annoying women on cell phones.”

Of course, the equally large boyfriend/husband had to be the alpha male and confront me. I made a remark about White Castle and he threw a punch at me. Amateurs have such bad footwork. He threw a haymaker and I just sidestepped.

He fell on his face. I walked out.

Bitching to the management is one thing. Getting gubmint to do your dirty work is childish.


66 posted on 08/25/2008 5:19:18 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: mngran2; Eric Blair 2084

Hopefully, they don’t base this charge on BMI, which can be deceptively high in some fit people. They must make sure people are actually FAT, first.

Apart from that, I see no problemo. Like it or not, genuinely overweight people (I am one of them at this time) are more likely to have certain ailments (heart disease, IIRC, diabetes, and so on). Belly fat apparently secretes toxic compounds into the body, as well. So, there can be an imperative to charge genuinely overweight people more, as they are likely to require more healthcare.

As for the nitwits suing McDonalds and Wendy’s, or government regulating trans fats, I still say, up your nose with a rubber hose! Now pass the baconator, please.


67 posted on 08/25/2008 5:41:26 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: 4Liberty
Quit whining; this is not “The Nanny state,” it is a free market solution.

I think you are mostly right. By itself this doesn't represent the Nanny state.

But I VERY much doubt the people behind this change are looking at it as an isolated policy. This is just an early step in a conditioning process. It's about getting people used to the idea of state involvement in our health habits (or our lack thereof). Nanny-state types will point to programs like this one when they want to expand the government's reach into private health insurance or the private food purchases of consumers.

There is a common pattern to these kinds of movements. First, the government imposes the new standards on itself. Then the government imposes the standards on any entity accepting government funds. And then, once the ideals of the movement win either widespread toleration or apathy, those ideals are imposed on everyone. As examples, consider the civil rights movement, the anti-smoking movement, and the gay rights movement (which has not yet reached the final stages but definitely seems to be heading in the direction).

Sadly, there are individuals and groups out there just chomping at the bits to make us into healthier people...whether we want to be healthier or not. With this in mind, I would say the article does indeed warrant a "Nanny state" alert.

68 posted on 08/25/2008 5:47:04 PM PDT by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: genericnameallotherstaken; Eric Blair 2084; mngran2
The article says they will use the BMI chart. If you have a BMI of 35 or over you will pay more.

Well, in that case, consider me opposed. If the program cannot tell the difference between a musclehead and a fatty (like me), there's no point in implementing it.

69 posted on 08/25/2008 5:50:17 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
All insurance will be private (paid for with a standard Gubmint voucher).

Fixed it.

Now, throw in the elimination of all tax deductions and credits for health insurance, and you have a deal! :-)

70 posted on 08/25/2008 5:56:14 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: GOP_Lady; Eric Blair 2084

I don’t think they will realize we’re in this nightmare together.

You would think it would have sunk in by now.

I doubt it will. Too much finger pointing,whining and passing the buck stands in the way of a united assault on the nanny-state.


71 posted on 08/25/2008 5:59:35 PM PDT by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
I'm surprised you could get your head out of the way.
72 posted on 08/25/2008 6:01:53 PM PDT by stormer
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To: GOP_Lady

There are also lawsuit costs and the overreliance on health insurance, due to various tax incentives. The latter kills the incentive for the health profession to find ways to save customers money, AFAIK.


73 posted on 08/25/2008 6:03:12 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: GOPJ

Why not post their names and photos too? Ostracize them lard-@sses. Denormalize gluttony. Give the ones that AREN’T fat a bonus. Require slimmies to put down the fatties. Fatty-fatty-boom-balatti. Fatty-fat-fatso.


74 posted on 08/25/2008 6:08:29 PM PDT by ichabod1 (It's all fun and games until Russia starts invading Eastern Europe (pete))
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To: stormer; Eric Blair 2084

OH, OUCH!


75 posted on 08/25/2008 6:09:08 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

Naw, ignorance is encouraged. It’s the smart-smart-smarty pantses they’ll want to concentrate in central locations, “for their own protection”, and so they can be with their own kind.


76 posted on 08/25/2008 6:11:30 PM PDT by ichabod1 (It's all fun and games until Russia starts invading Eastern Europe (pete))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You were the only person who picked up on that little health care voucher idea I threw in there.

I stand by it.

Every American gets a $5,000 voucher to buy health insurance. It’s cheaper than Medicare, Medicaid or the Medicare Part D plan.

Trust me. Competition works wonders.


77 posted on 08/25/2008 6:12:38 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: stormer

What are you trying to say?


78 posted on 08/25/2008 6:14:50 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

I hadn’t thought of that! They get away with it because they don’t hit individuals, but they look at the average age and health care bills.

The current system encourages you to use the services as much as possible to get your money’s worth. You can’t just get private insurance because they’ll drop you if you come down with anything. It’s a trap.

It will probably stop when we have a huge economic crash and suddenly nobody has insurance.


79 posted on 08/25/2008 6:16:35 PM PDT by ichabod1 (It's all fun and games until Russia starts invading Eastern Europe (pete))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Try telling these NFL players that they are “fat”. I would love to see social engineering libs get their butts kicked. Tell them to their face with a camera rolling. Here is the Dallas Cowboys’ roster. Everyone has a BMI over 30 except for the kickers. You can torture the data to make it say whatever you want in order to achieve a political objective. It’s not that hard.

NO NAME POS HT WT EXP COLLEGE
76 Adams, Flozell OT 6-7 340 11 Michigan State
18 Amendola, Danny WR 5-11 183 R Texas Tech
34 Anderson, Deon FB 5-10 241 1 Connecticut
87 Atchison, Drew TE 6-6 247 R William & Mary
19 Austin, Miles WR 6-3 216 3 Monmouth
92 Ayodele, Remi DT 6-2 300 2 Oklahoma
20 Ball, Alan CB 6-1 176 1 Illinois
24 Barber, Marion RB 6-0 221 4 Minnesota
4 Bartel, Richard QB 6-3 246 1 Tarleton State
80 Bennett, Martellus TE 6-6 252 R Texas A&M
67 Berger, Joe G 6-5 304 4 Michigan Tech
72 Bowen, Stephen DE 6-5 303 3 Hofstra
13 Bradford, Mark WR 6-2 215 R Stanford
27 Brown, Courtney S 6-1 203 2 Cal Poly
57 Burnett, Kevin LB 6-3 227 4 Tennessee
99 Canty, Chris DE 6-7 299 4 Virginia
54 Carpenter, Bobby LB 6-2 248 3 Ohio State
29 Choice, Tashard RB 5-10 215 R Georgia Tech
30 Coleman, Alonzo RB 5-9 202 1 Hampton
75 Colombo, Marc OT 6-8 315 7 Boston College
84 Crayton, Patrick WR 6-0 205 5 NW Okla State
39 Crosslin, Julius FB 5-11 245 R Oklahoma State
45 Cruz, Ronnie FB 6-0 237 3 Northern State
89 Curtis, Tony TE 6-5 265 3 Portland State
47 Davis, Dowayne S 6-0 202 R Syracuse
70 Davis, Leonard G 6-6 354 8 Texas
95 Dixon, Marcus DE 6-4 294 R Hampton
98 Ellis, Greg LB 6-6 265 11 North Carolina
37 Everett, Tyler CB 5-11 202 1 Ohio State
6 Folk, Nick K 6-1 222 1 Arizona
68 Free, Doug OT 6-6 306 2 Northern Illinois
59 George, Tearrius LB 6-4 270 2 Kansas State
62 Gibbons, Ryan C 6-4 318 1 Northeastern
65 Gurode, Andre C 6-4 316 7 Colorado
26 Hamlin, Ken S 6-2 206 6 Arkansas
44 Hannah, Rodney TE 6-6 255 R Houston
97 Hatcher, Jason DE 6-6 298 3 Grambling
42 Henry, Anthony CB 6-1 205 8 South Florida
17 Hurd, Sam WR 6-2 196 3 Northern Illinois
56 James, Bradie LB 6-2 239 6 Louisiana State
85 Jefferson, Mike WR 6-1 206 R Montana State
31 Jenkins, Mike CB 5-11 197 R South Florida
14 Johnson, Brad QB 6-5 235 17 Florida State
66 Johnson, Tank DT 6-3 300 5 Washington
21 Jones, Adam CB 5-10 185 3 West Virginia
28 Jones, Felix RB 5-10 207 R Arkansas
63 Kosier, Kyle G 6-5 294 7 Arizona State
91 Ladouceur, L.P. LS 6-4 251 4 California
35 Lattimore, Keon RB 5-11 222 R Maryland
79 Lekkerkerker, Cory OT 6-7 323 4 Cal Davis
16 Lowber, Todd WR 6-3 205 1 Ramapo
78 Marten, James OT 6-7 303 2 Boston College
1 McBriar, Mat P 6-1 224 5 Hawaii
77 McQuistan, Pat OT 6-6 311 3 Weber State
41 Newman, Terence CB 5-11 181 6 Kansas State
23 Oglesby, Evan CB 5-10 185 3 N. Alabama
81 Owens, Terrell WR 6-3 218 13 Tennessee-Chattanooga
71 Procter, Cory C 6-4 297 4 Montana
90 Ratliff, Jay DE 6-4 298 4 Auburn
51 Robertson, Darrell DE 6-4 255 R Georgia Tech
50 Rogers, Justin LB 6-4 250 2 SMU
9 Romo, Tony QB 6-2 224 6 Eastern Illinois
32 Scandrick, Orlando CB 5-10 192 R Boise State
64 Siavii, Junior DT 6-5 330 4 Oregon
60 Smith, Marcus DE 6-4 286 R Arizona
58 Smith, Tyson LB 6-2 240 2 Iowa State
96 Spears, Marcus DE 6-4 305 4 LSU
93 Spencer, Anthony LB 6-3 257 2 Purdue
86 Stanback, Isaiah WR 6-2 208 2 Washington
61 Stenavich, Adam G 6-4 308 1 Michigan
55 Thomas, Zach LB 5-11 228 13 Texas Tech
53 Walden, Erik LB 6-2 242 R Middle Tennessee State
94 Ware, DeMarcus LB 6-4 252 4 Troy
25 Watkins, Pat S 6-5 208 3 Florida State
38 Williams, Roy S 6-0 225 7 Oklahoma
82 Witten, Jason TE 6-5 266 6 Tennessee


80 posted on 08/25/2008 6:23:48 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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