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Reservoir levels plummet; rationing seen on horizon (SoCal)
The Orange County Register ^ | August 19, 2008 | PAT BRENNAN

Posted on 08/19/2008 1:22:17 PM PDT by TheDon

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To: TheDon
As usual this is a government caused problem.
Desalination -- the removal of salt from salt water -- would be the ultimate solution to water woes -- if it can be done cheaply enough. That's a big if: "The best estimates are $2 to $2.50 per ton for desalination," says de Villiers. "That not really that far from the real cost of delivering water from the Colorado River, but California's water is so heavily subsidized that they are paying 10 cents per ton when the real cost is closer to $2.50 per ton."

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Water subsidies are a fact of life in the western United States. According to de Villiers, they amount to $500 per acre. He alleges that "70 percent of the farmers' profits in California's Central Valley -- which is supposed to be the richest farmland in the world -- came directly through taxpayer subsidization."

http://waterindustry.org/Water-Facts/water-costs-8.htm
21 posted on 08/19/2008 1:52:28 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: TheDon

Yeah but those smelt fishes are doing fine now.

Isn’t that why they didn’t fill some of the reservoirs up as much as they could? it was hurting smelt???


22 posted on 08/19/2008 1:57:18 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Timeout

Wow. Makes me feel better about living in the sticks and having my own personal water source. I bet that made you appreciate home (AL) alot more.


23 posted on 08/19/2008 1:58:36 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (Choosing between McInsane and Obamapalooza is like choosing to ingest a slow or fast-acting poison.)
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To: ken21

Apparently it is. There is a desalination plant being built in Carlsbad, CA. As usual, it is the environmental wackos slowing progress. In any case, it is wise to diversify your water sources when you live in a desert and import virtually all of your water. :-)


24 posted on 08/19/2008 2:02:26 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: Linden1209

I don’t know, ever heard of the Pacific Ocean? :-)


25 posted on 08/19/2008 2:03:16 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: R. Scott

Desalination would solve a lot of problems!


26 posted on 08/19/2008 2:05:07 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: SierraWasp; NormsRevenge; Ernest_at_the_Beach; tubebender; steelie

For some reason you didn’t get pinged on my historical trip back to the 1977 Drought.


27 posted on 08/19/2008 2:06:25 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Obama, the Oreo Bozo, who wants special-ed treatment as an untouchable affirmative action candidate)
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To: rivercat

We have lots of reservoirs and are building more, but that doesn’t provide water. We need desalination!


28 posted on 08/19/2008 2:06:49 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: OB1kNOb

Interesting factoids. I try to spray it down after she pees, but I don’t see every time.


29 posted on 08/19/2008 2:08:11 PM PDT by agooga (Struggling every day to be worthy of their sacrifice.)
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This is one of the reasons I'm pro-nuclear power. We will need the energy from these power plants for our desalination plants in the future. California is on a fast track to 60 million people in just a few years. Where will they get the water for this? Nobody knows. Those in charge just haven't thought of the consequences of immigration (both legal and illegal). Where's the Sierra Club when you need them to take a stand on immigration?
30 posted on 08/19/2008 2:11:04 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: Timeout

That’s a really great gub story. Presumably the firemen aren’t hosing down the sewers these days— what’s pushing the solids along, now?


31 posted on 08/19/2008 2:11:15 PM PDT by agooga (Struggling every day to be worthy of their sacrifice.)
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I’m sure having 500,000 to 1,000,000 illegals doesn’t help the situation. But we don’t want to mention that because it is “racist”.

A good comment but you are off by a factor of 7-8 at a minimum.
32 posted on 08/19/2008 2:14:20 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: Timeout
Gubmint. Ain’t good for nuthin’.

Well, during that water shortage in Santa Barbara, our local branch was good for a bit of humor. Who could ever forget our dignified elderly lady mayor standing before the TV cameras and intoning the City's instructions for toilet usage: "If it's yellow, it's mellow. If it's brown, flush it down."

BTW, remember the desal plant they built, used for about 2 months and then shut down, eventually selling most of the parts? Now the City's planning to spend $122K to find out how much it would cost to make it work again. My tax dollars at work.

33 posted on 08/19/2008 2:15:08 PM PDT by dorothy ( “Here comes the orator! With his flood of words, and his drop of reason.” —Benjamin Franklin)
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To: R. Scott

“Forget it, Jake. It’s Chinatown.”


34 posted on 08/19/2008 2:15:55 PM PDT by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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To: TheDon

They’ve been talking about desalinaiton for decades. They need to quit talking, and start building.


35 posted on 08/19/2008 2:18:13 PM PDT by grundle
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To: Straight Vermonter
If mass fresh water is needed it might be cheaper to simply spray offshore ocean water into the air during midday and let mother nature separate the fresh water out and air lift the water in. The resulting clouds would cool the climate lowering air-conditioning and wildfire costs. If wanted Southern California could be turned into a rain forest. But leftists would change from global warming to complaining about man-made clouds.
36 posted on 08/19/2008 2:18:13 PM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Orange1998

Female Dog Pee!

We have one too. We Love her but what do we do///

I’ve tried “Patch Perfect” to no avail... The Potty Rock is never used... What can be done.

T%his is as big a problem as Obama.


37 posted on 08/19/2008 2:25:13 PM PDT by Kviteseid (Get up when you wake up and wake up when you get up. F. Krause c. 1952 Minn.)
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To: Grampa Dave

It was a vacationing Northern California reporter that broke this story and finally brought this to our attention. I remember well, the bricks in the toilet, only flushing for number two, dead landscaping, dirty cars, etc.


38 posted on 08/19/2008 2:31:05 PM PDT by rivercat
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To: agooga

We moved into our house during the height of the 1977 drought.

The previous owners had done an excellent job of planting drough resistant plants, shrubs and plants. There was no yard, just a level of pea gravel by our back deck.

I was happy as my wife, a mid western gal, wanted a front yard the size of a soccer field and a grassy back yard the size of a football field. I happily sold my lawn mower and edgers. Our sons were pre teenagers and were more interested in hunting/fishing, sports, riding their bikes and girls and probably didn’t know nor care that we didn’t have a green grassy back yard.

So when our female pointer squatted and did her thing on the pea gravel, there was no problem.

Flash forward a couple of decades and the birth of our first grandchild. I allowed a small back yard with green grass to be tilled and sodded with an auto watering system.

Between the deer and racoons and grub worms, we have had it re sodded 3 times. Our yard guy used to come every 4 weeks, now he is here weekly.

Most of the rest of the acre is like it was when we bought it. Any plants my wife have planted or wanted planted are drip irrigated or hand watered by her.

I told if we go on water rationing, the yard gets covered with artificial turf. She aggreed. Also, her Rhodies and Azaleas will survive on a few minutes of drip 3 times a week instead of daily, or they will die.

Our son has told his wife, when strict water rationing hits, their front yard becomes pea gravel and their backyard becomes artificial turf and pea gravel. I put in most of her roses and other plants with a drip system, so they should survive.


39 posted on 08/19/2008 2:33:31 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Obama, the Oreo Bozo, who wants special-ed treatment as an untouchable affirmative action candidate)
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To: Grampa Dave

Yeah— I battled coons too. The buggers loved to roll back the turf every night and look for grubs. Without getting into specifics, let’s just say I no longer have a raccoon problem. But, what a hassle!


40 posted on 08/19/2008 2:39:17 PM PDT by agooga (Struggling every day to be worthy of their sacrifice.)
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