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Russia Goes Rogue
NY Post ^ | 8-12-2008 | Ralph Peters

Posted on 08/12/2008 10:13:20 AM PDT by Renfield

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To: austrian

our oil is pretty much sucked dry.

No, it isn’t.


21 posted on 08/12/2008 11:07:28 AM PDT by Library Lady
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To: Library Lady

i was talking about europes oil reserves not american.
i admitted that the US has oil reserves.


22 posted on 08/12/2008 11:14:31 AM PDT by austrian
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To: Ancesthntr; Library Lady; austrian
Austrian was stating that Europe's oil reserves were pretty much sucked dry, not the US oil reserves.

ok i admit america has oil resources but europe? our oil is pretty much sucked dry.

23 posted on 08/12/2008 11:18:20 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: Rapscallion
"President at the olympics; Vice President angry over Rumsfeld’s firing; Rumsfeld gone; CIA neutered, Congress on 5 week vacation; SecState Rice on vacation.....who’s minding the store?"

Also on Russia's chess board is their support of Iran and Iran's work toward a nuke. Israel, and the US, are setting the board for an attack on Iran's nuke facilities. And it's a good bet that some sort of attack will take place To which, Iran will respond by shutting down the Straight of Hormuz depriving Europe and others oil passing through the Straight.

Putin set the Georgians up by supporting S. Ossetia and getting them to stir things up knowing the Georgia would respond. Georgia does and Russia rides to the rescue and gains control over the oil pipelines from the Caspian making Europe evermore beholden to the Russians for oil and gas.

The environuts and the dems have almost shut down new oil drilling and refining and we, too, have grown dependent on foreign oil, and are vulnerable to Iran's and Russia's threats should Iran's nuke facilities be attacked.

So, do we allow Tehran to develop a nuke? Do we stop them or help Israel? With at least temporary control over the pipelines, Russia, alone and through its ally Iran, have a lot to say about it, buying Iran more time while they buy more Russian arms.

Assuming an attack on Iran will happen, at worse, Russia loses a chess piece, Iran, but will benefit from our having to clean up the Iranian nuke mess. Plus, they should rake in a lot of money from oil and arms sales in the aftermath while Putin looks like a strong leader to Russians and a friend to allies. All of these events will make taking Ukraine back much easier.

24 posted on 08/12/2008 11:18:44 AM PDT by GBA
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To: Ancesthntr; austrian
Our oil is NOT sucked dry.

I believe that austrian was talking about Europe's oil reserves. I think the U.S. is in pretty good shape, comparatively speaking (we just need to introduce certain politicans to some hot tar, feathers and a rail).

25 posted on 08/12/2008 11:26:18 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: GBA

Personally, I think that Putin timed this perfectly.
Red Dawn Redux is supposed to come out soon, isn’t it?
(/sarc)

Kind of ironic though, No?

“NATO dissolves, The US stands alone!”


26 posted on 08/12/2008 12:33:06 PM PDT by Delmarksman (Pro 2A Anglican American (Ford and Chevy kill more people than guns do, lets ban them))
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To: Renfield
Nor does Putin's ambition stop with the former Soviet territories. His air force has been trying (unsuccessfully) to hit the new gas pipeline running from the Caspian Sea to the Mediterranean.

If anybody thinks that was an accident or incompetence I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

27 posted on 08/12/2008 12:46:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 ... Olympics for murdering regimes. ... Beijing '08)
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To: austrian
alternative energy NOW

Alternative energy? A new tire gauge for everybody?

28 posted on 08/12/2008 12:53:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 ... Olympics for murdering regimes. ... Beijing '08)
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To: GBA

How come “life is what happens while you’re busy making plans” only applies to me. It’s a great plan, but all has to fall just right. If we get a copy of the map, let’s just derail the little bugger before he gets to the Emerald City.

Of course, that makes us the “Wicked Witch,” but at the moment, I don’t have a problem with that.


29 posted on 08/12/2008 12:56:06 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Renfield
Working through their mercenaries in South Ossetia, Russia staged brutal provocations against Georgia from late July onward. Last Thursday, Georgia's president finally had to act to defend his own people.

The MSM in the U.S. is going to do a better job than the Russian press of covering up that fact.

30 posted on 08/12/2008 1:02:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 ... Olympics for murdering regimes. ... Beijing '08)
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This is the most cynical military operation by a "European" power since Moscow invaded Afghanistan in 1979. (Sad to say, President Bush seems as bewildered now as President Jimmy Carter did then.)

Sad to say we're in an even worse position energy wise now than we were then.
Hello, Congress. Is anybody home?

What the heck, Bush causes hurricanes so I guess we can blame him for 30 years of Congressional graft and incompetence.

31 posted on 08/12/2008 1:16:04 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin '36 ... Olympics for murdering regimes. ... Beijing '08)
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To: IYAS9YAS; austrian
Austrian was stating that Europe's oil reserves were pretty much sucked dry, not the US oil reserves.

Uh, nevermind.

32 posted on 08/12/2008 4:29:23 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obomination from becoming President)
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To: Renfield
This morning at the American Enterprise Institute, Peters said “The Russians are drink-sodden barbarians who occasionally puke up a genius”
33 posted on 08/13/2008 10:18:04 AM PDT by Southern Partisan ("Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more. You should never wish to do less." ----R. E. Lee)
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