Transsexual fights city of Cleveland over pool locker room

Cleaveland Plain Dealer ^ | July 27, 2008 | Laura Johnston

[Republicus2001]

I want to know if one is simply tran-gender curious if you can visit opposite sex bathrooms....you know, kinda see if you like it first...

[Tanniker Smith]

Obviously, since surgery hasn’t occurred yet, the author meant to say “HE”, not “she”. I guess we’re editorializing in the news again.

[max americana]

>> “ can’t do it anymore,” Deamons said. “Every time I go through there, it’s tearing my insides out.” <<

You’re not the only one, miss..er, I mean, sir...ummm

[LAforme2008]

I have a feeling that due to the fact Karen has had several strokes a few years ago, her prospects for complete surgery are almost nil.

[johniegrad]

There is no “she” here. This is a man with a psychological problem or a perversion. Don’t buy into the language. This is an XY genetically bona fide male regardless of what he does to mutilate himself.

[LAforme2008]

“Obviously, since surgery hasn’t occurred yet, the author meant to say “HE”, not “she”. I guess we’re editorializing in the news again.”

No actually the style book from the press company that shall not be named says you should refer to the transgender person as they gender they present in.

[JLS]

She says she must swim. She suffered three strokes in 2003 and 2004, and doctors have prescribed water exercises to help keep mobility in her left arm and leg.

She uses a wheelchair and must take public transportation, so Cudell is the most convenient city pool from her Cleveland home.

And since she is on a limited budget of disability payments

One might think someone who is 53 with serious health and financial problems would have bigger fish to fry than arguing with nature what sex they are. And I wonder who is paying for this elective surgery?

[Alouette]

But now, after an embarrassing question from a boy in the men's locker room, she's fighting the city.

What was the embarrassing question?

[GSWarrior]

It is my understanding that even gays and lesbians are uncomfortable around trangendered people. How do they expect the public at large to deal with them?

[MAexile]

A gender-neutral locker room - the goal of perverted college student groups from California to Massachusetts - is not being considered.

There, fixed it.

[LAforme2008]

“It would not bother me if this Karen person was in the womans bathroom or locker room after the operation because then I know “SHE” could not sexually attack me because “she” would not have the organ to do so!”

Chances are if she’s been on female hormones for any length of time there would be no danger of that happening anyway.
And if she is like most MTF individuals, she’s not interested in women.

[Mercat]

There was someone in our (female) locker room who definitely had a “package.” I really don’t care but then I’m 60. I guess I do care when my 7 year old granddaughter is there. There are “family” changing rooms and that seems to me to be the compromise. These rooms always seem unused. No showers or hot tubs but hey, it’s a compromise. Also, one of my friends never changes in the locker rooms but then she doesn’t swim. There are the public restrooms. hmmm.

[LAforme2008]

Gender neutral locker rooms, like gender neutral bathrooms, are normally one user at a time with locks on the doors.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

It’s all about him/her/it. There is some consideration for others (changing in bathroom stalls), but other than that, it’s all about MEEEEEEEEEEEEE and not about social NORMS. He/she/it should take the plunge and get reassignment surgery, or he/she/it could get help (from a CONSERVATIVE therapist), or he/she/it could pick a type of exercise where outfit changes can be done in the privacy of ones home.

[Faith]

The person’s last name says it all.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

She says she must swim. She suffered three strokes in 2003 and 2004, and doctors have prescribed water exercises to help keep mobility in her left arm and leg.

OK, so it has to be reassignment or therapy. Begging your pardon.