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Get your gun: Group seeks signatures for 'open-carry' law
Killeen Daily Herald ^ | 13 July, 2008 | Mason W. Canales

Posted on 07/14/2008 4:10:51 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: Soliton

Or the Second Amendment is our concealed carry permit; why should we have to enter a national database to obtain permission to exercise a God-given constitutionally-protected right?


41 posted on 07/14/2008 10:22:24 AM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
I think they were listing states where you can open carry without a concealed carry permit.
42 posted on 07/14/2008 10:23:59 AM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: wastedyears
...the Second Amendment is our concealed carry permit.

I've heard this expressed several times and understand the intent. However, it's flawed. The 2nd Amendment "permits" nothing. On the other hand it expressly prohibits the government from infringing on our right to keep and bear (own and carry) arms.

We need to insist on the restoration of our right to open carry weapons without the requirement of government "permission" to do so. I used to be that someone NOT carrying a weapon was the exception. Let's it make it that way again.

43 posted on 07/14/2008 11:03:57 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: marktwain
In contrast, why would someone need to carry a handgun into a bank? he [Isenberg] asked.

Because bad people rob banks?

If you do [open] carry into a bank, be alert.

44 posted on 07/14/2008 11:06:28 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: wastedyears
"I think they were listing states where you can open carry without a concealed carry permit."

You do not need a conceal carry to open carry in Pa. I do have a CCW and have never open carried in public myself, but I know it's legal. By virtue of the fact that there is no law against it. There are open carry groups in the state (as there are in other states) trying to promote this and educate the citizens of the state.
45 posted on 07/14/2008 11:21:00 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: ExGeeEye
"I’d like to have back the little Colt Mustang I had 16 years ago (sold it). Grr again. Fit nicely in a jeans pocket, which if loose enough, didn’t show an imprint."

Try carrying using an inside the waistband holster. It works great with all kinds of handguns. Now, if you plan on carrying a S&W 500 revolver w/8" barrel and you're a guy, women are going to think your happy to see them. However, I can carry a standard 1911 A1 inside the waistband with shorts and an untucked in shirt with no imprint.
46 posted on 07/14/2008 11:33:27 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
1911 A1

want.

(too.)

:)

47 posted on 07/14/2008 11:41:40 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (I've been waiting since 11/04/79 for us (US) to do something about Iran.)
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To: Soliton

You seem to cause a lot of trouble around here. Not too long you talked down to me and a bunch of other people because we disagreed with Darwin.


48 posted on 07/14/2008 11:46:51 AM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: ExGeeEye

If you got piles of money, you should probably go with a Kimber. Mine is a Springfield with alterations to the trigger and better and adjustable sites. Fell in love with it in the Marine Corps.


49 posted on 07/14/2008 11:59:52 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Dewd....I don't even have piles.
50 posted on 07/14/2008 12:07:03 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (I've been waiting since 11/04/79 for us (US) to do something about Iran.)
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To: nonsporting

The Second Amendment to me means that I could take public transportation into NYC (Metro North for me), with a “go” combat load: MP-5 slung around my back, dual magazines for that, with a pistol on my hip and a few extra magazines for that.

The Second Amendment also means that I could park a dual .50 in a yard for anti-air.

Also, said MP-5 would have Safe, Semi, Burst, and Full Auto. Yes, the Founders couldn’t have had a dream about today’s firearms, but the Second Amendment was written with ‘arms’ in it, not just ‘firearms’. Arms encompasses anything and everything.

And I didn’t mean that the Second Amendment, Constitution or Bill of Rights permitted anything. I’m just saying that if somebody were to ask for a permit, just say “Look at the Bill of Rights.” Something to that effect.


51 posted on 07/14/2008 12:08:05 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

You must have a large frame to be able to carry a full size 1911 inside the pants without it printing.


52 posted on 07/14/2008 12:11:26 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: wastedyears
"You must have a large frame to be able to carry a full size 1911 inside the pants without it printing."

I'm 6'1" with a medium build. I do however wear loose clothing as I don't generally like tight jeans/shorts/shirts.
53 posted on 07/14/2008 12:18:32 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Sounds like a good plan.


54 posted on 07/14/2008 12:25:25 PM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: Soliton
The constitution is a national protection. We should be able to get a federal concealed carry permit that is good everywhere.

We shouldn't need a "concealed carry permit" or an "open carry permit", or even a FID/FOID. The right to keep and bear arms is the enumerated individual right that is protected.

55 posted on 07/14/2008 2:36:36 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Soliton
So felons should be able to carry?

What does a prohibition on felons carrying, or keeping for the matter, have to do with the rights of non-felons? If felons are caught with with firearms. Put them in jail..again.

It hasn't been all that long in most places that convicted felons, once they had served their full sentences, including probation time, could once again exercise their RKBA.

Federal law provides for restoration of the RKBA after serving one's sentence. Problem is that for some time Congress has prohibited spending any money on processing requests for restoration of rights.

Besides, have you seen some of the Mickey Mouse offenses that are now felonies?

56 posted on 07/14/2008 2:40:17 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Soliton
So felons should be able to carry?

Once a felon has completed the full term of his sentence, including parole and probation, why not? For the state to legitimately disarm someone for life as a consequence of a crime, lifetime disarmament (a form of probation) would have to be part of the sentence prescribed by law. There is no legitimate basis for the parts of GCA'68 add lifetime disarmament to the sentences of all crimes punishable by a year or more in prison.

57 posted on 07/14/2008 6:21:28 PM PDT by supercat
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To: CholeraJoe; The Bat Lady
I’m not at all keen on felons of any ilk carrying, or voting.

and the leftists count on you thinking that #35.

then they get divorcing women to claim some abuse and they take your guns. or some other little something and they take his guns and pretty soon everyone is a felon for some little reason or other and they have taken all the guns.

So think about this, someone goes to jail and pays their time and when they get out, they DON'T have the individual right to defend themselves?????

I agree if they can't be trusted, keep them in jail otherwise they have the right to have a gun.

58 posted on 07/15/2008 7:09:16 AM PDT by The Bat Lady (I want to vote for somone who won't later call me a bigot, racist or vigilante.)
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