Posted on 07/06/2008 9:57:03 PM PDT by stravinskyrules
It seems Polarik’s work is the most thorough and answers questions AJStrata leaves hanging- also for those who haven’t seen it- there’s an interesting piece over at Atlas Shrugs:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-tech-expe.html
Makes little sense for BHO to ignore this BC issue...
No candidate for President has ever done this, and I SERIOUSLY doubt that Obama will do it for YOU.
“One also wonders where the birth certificate that was used to get his passport, wasn’t used. Why did he get a new copy, last year?”
Good question. He didn’t have to use a BC the first go ‘round though. There’s been several posts laying out the other docs that could be used to secure a passport. Also, maybe he used a foreign BC the first go ‘round, if in fact it WAS a BC. Since we don’t know where he was born, it could be a BC from Kenya(?) Indonesia(?)
Makes perfect sense to me.
No one who would think about this "issue" for a nanosecond is going to vote for Obama. EVER.
So why not ignore it?
That's just flat out nonsense. In exit interview after exit interview, many Hillary supporters said the number one reason they had problems voting for Obama is that they "just didn't trust him". And this issue adds to that distrust. Someone posted how this is vigorously discussed over at some pro-Hillary web site.
Your best case on why the issue should be ignored?
bttt
Yes but Hillary is waiting in the wings for all this atuff to get worked out.
You are missing the point. THEY DON'T WANT IT TO GO AWAY. Even if he was born in Iran, with his connections, he could produce an absolutely perfect microfiche of a fake birth certificate.
I agree. The whole point of anti-aliasing is to make text look smooth and natural, not garbled. It should be confined to the contours of the letters themselves, but in this image the distortion extends WAY outside the text.
Anti-aliasing reflects what is printed but not what is not printed such that you wouldn't see a band of disturbance extending well beyond the letters in the background image because the background image is green on white vs the black on white of the lettering.
To me the letters stomping on the green/white background pixels away from the letter and doing it inconsistently looked like an artifact of having a very high JPEG compression ratio. The image is broken down into 8x8 blocks which are each compressed. If you have a letter end right against the edge of the 8x8 block, it won't have any effect on the next block. On the other hand if you have the leftmost column of pixels be solid black in the uncompressed scan with the other 7 columns showing the weak background, that can cause detail in those remaining 7 columns to be destroyed once compressed.
At least one of the scans I saw had an over 10:1 compression ratio, which is far too high to use with images with a lot of line art in them like text. JPEG was designed for pictures with nice gradual transitions, not text.
Also, since there are two different resolution files out there, it looks like someone scanned it, compressed it, which was then changed in resolution and recompressed. There are two words for compressing an reresed JPEG image - UG and LEE. I don't even like cutting and pasting from a JPEG unless I do it on the 8 pixel boundaries to minimize the recompression issues.
I agree, that’s why you ask for the hospital records.
THis thing is going to be like the Tar Baby, excuse the anology. The longer he puts this off the stickier it’s going to get.
1. Why post a forgery?
2. Who forged it?
3. If it’s not a forgery, why was it released through Daily KOs and not his own website?
4. This is a basic question, your birth.
“If the myth is busted, you would think Obama could just release a certified, true copy of his birth certificate to the press and lay it to rest. Why keep it alive?”
Guys and gals who make a living with so called conservative blog sites warning us about the dangers of communism and other isms, while the average voter doesn’t care about any ism threat, have a lot to lose if the Obamination gets disqualified due to his fake certificate of live birth.
Communists are terrible, but most American Voters could care less!
Those, who yell or scream and say a forged Certificate Of Live Birth is no big deal, remind me of an uncle, who went to his grave moaning that Al Capone only went to jail for tax evasion.
My grandfather, whose wisdom was great, would tell his blathering SIL, “Grow up! No one cares. Capone is in jail and that is all that matters!”
If we can take out or disable the Communist/Islamofascist Change Merchant with this forged certificate, so be it. He is a double danger, a communist/socialist and Muslim in disguise. I don’t care what causes him to lose or drop out of the election just so he loses or drops out.
I’m seeing a lot of the same bs arguments that were advanced against our Swift Vets.
Thank God, the Swift Vets helped derail that communist traitor SOB, Kerry.
No candidate’s birth has ever been questioned. If we’ve uncovered a possible forgery....I would think the FBI is looking into this, as it would be a federal offense.
This is total BS unless someone got an original digital image from Hawaii. Antialiasing in this case applies to line art (such as text) that was converted to a bitmap within an application. It doesn't apply to digital line art that has been printed. In printing you get halftones, error diffusion patterns, etc., but not different shades around the edge. If the original was antialiased then you'd see a halftone representation of that antialias, not the antialiasing itself.
Anybody got a high-res version of this I can check out?
Notice on Obama's official site, his birth certificate says OHBM 1.1 in the lower left corner.
The original document displayed on the Daily KOS website says OHSM 1.1 in the lower left corner.
The million dollar question is: If the Daily KOS document was supplied by a Obama campaign staffer, as was reported, then how on earth can these two documents differ?
There may be a Hawaiian state agency or department with the initials 'OHBM', but I'm not aware of any.
The agency that you request a copy of a birth certificate from is the 'Office of Health Status Monitoring', OHSM.
The genie is out of the bottle now and it's impossible to "take back" the images. They are immortalized all over the web on different sites. Anyone can see this hard proof of skullduggery for themselves.
Why is the certificate # blacked out?
African is not a race! In 1961, wouldn't Negro or Negroid have been used to describe his Father's race instead of African?
Where is the indentation of the official seal and the folded marks, the rest of us have on our valid birth certificate copies?
Last but not least: What are the reverse purple lettering past the last entry line on the lower middle right? What do they mean, and why are they there?
Did Dan Blather's liar/chief forger, Mary Mapes create this bs?
Is this phoney birth certificate just another example of the Real but Fake Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas, the Islamofacist Manchurian Candidate for Changing America?
Compare this doctored and phoney BC with a real one shown below:
Hey Obami, man of undocumented place of birth. You can settle this very quickly. Just authorize the officials in Hawaii to send official copies of your birth certificate to Jim Robinson and other conservative sites. Then, they can post the real authorized copies for everyone to see. We will take up a collection to pay for the authorized copy and Fed Ex overnight delivery to Jim Robinson/Free Republic so you will not have to worry about the cost.
Reality break: We probably have as much chance of seeing a real copy of Obami's birth certificate as seeing John Kerry’s full military record. Kerry refused to release his military records, and Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas, the Islamofacist Manchurian Candidate will probably not show his BC. We will be labeled as racists for daring to question his birth place. The lying spinning MSM will continue to cover for Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas.
Poor analysis, frankly.
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