HA! I remember that!
Posted on 06/22/2008 10:11:46 PM PDT by jmc813
AGAIN HE WILL ANSWER TO THE ONE THAT COUNTS as we all will...he had no obligation to let you, me or anyone else as it is your business as is mine how we feel and what we believe. if those people you say he harmed by keeping them from finding God then they have a bigger problem if they can’t make decisions on thier own. people like you can’t laugh at life in general and look to these people for the pure entertainment value. everything has to be cut and dry and written in stone. alice cooper presents himself as the devil, evil etc but in life he is a true Christian. does that make him bad...??..no, it is purely entertainment.
Well now, who is judging who? You have no clue who I am or how much I laugh in life.
You were so busy pointing a finger at me, you forgot that there were three coming right back at you.
As far as your brand of “entertainment” goes, I’m not interested.
Einstein himself stated quite clearly that he did not believe in a personal God:
“It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly.”
So, the quick answer to the question is that Einstein did not believe in a personal God. It is however, interesting how he arrived at that conclusion. In developing the theory of relativity, Einstein realized that the equations led to the conclusion that the universe had a beginning. He didn’t like the idea of a beginning, because he thought one would have to conclude that the universe was created by God. So, he added a cosmological constant to the equation to attempt to get rid of the beginning. He said this was one of the worst mistakes of his life. Of course, the results of Edwin Hubble confirmed that the universe was expanding and had a beginning at some point in the past. So, Einstein became a deist - a believer in an impersonal creator God:
“I believe in Spinoza’s God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings.”
However, it would also seem that Einstein was not an atheist, since he also complained about being put into that camp:
“In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views.”
“I’m not an atheist and I don’t think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangements of the books, but doesn’t know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God.”
Why no personal God?
It is the second part of the quote that reveals the reason Einstein rejected the existence of a personal God. Einstein compared the remarkable design and order of the cosmos and could not reconcile those characteristics with the evil and suffering he found in human existence. How could an all-powerful God allow the suffering that exists on earth?
(So Einstein, like many of this countries Founders, could properly called a deist.)
He made me laugh many times and made me cringe many times. I hope he 'got it' on the important things before he passed on.
I'm not suggesting you're defending Carlin, but I'm of the opinion he was not a nice person at all. And some forums/posters keep going on about what a loss it is.
Why? Because he was famous?
One of the very few liberals I respect. No sacred cow avoided slaughter under his sharp wit. He turned the exasperatingly stupid into a laugh, and for this I thank him.
RIP, funnyman!
i think your moniker says enough for you.
Never said it was “OK” that he did that.
He was funny at times. Quite funny until about the mid 90s, even when I disagreed with his statements or his lifestyle. Just an observation.
You can find something funny without agreeing with it.
Since my old user ID on “Bones7955” must have been deleted from not using it in a while, I made a new screen name. Anyway, to the point at hand.
I was a fan of him back in the day, and I don’t know if other folks noticed that his rapid slide towards the really dark, pessimistic, hurtful things he would say began right after the death of his wife... a tragic loss with which I think he was never able to cope, right up until the end.
I think it made him so bitter, his comedy went from taking a jab at different things for comic value, to really trying to hurt people.. it’s a shame.... and the one thing he railed against SO much, that being spiritual faith of any kind, (not even just Christianity but anything spiritual), was the one thing that might’ve helped him cope with such a devastating loss.
Watched some youtube clips this morning. I'm 30 and they're still funny as hell. However, his more recent stuff wasn't as funny and was a bit sad, really. He was at his peak from about 1972 - 1985 or so.
Its a free country and one can believe in whatever they want. Einstein was highly intelligent but also very confused on issues related to personal faith.
OTOH, this was about George Carlin and his penchant for attacking God, Jesus, Christians, conservatives and traditional American values. Carlin showed no respect for others. Sad, pathetic, but true.
Let them go ahead. It says more about them than it does about Carlin. He at least admitted he hated religion and everything about this country.
Carlin trashed everyone. Believing in a diety doesn't get you a free pass.
You’re part of the problem.
I don’t have to presume when he has spoken Himself. “ Luke 13:5”I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.” It is only presumption to imply that He meant something other than what Scripture teaches.
I said “unless”. I do not know the final state of his soul; however, I know what Scripture says. If Carlin died in a state of unbelief, he is now in Hell.
Neither liked nor disliked him particularly. Just wasn't that funny. Most of the bits I've heard were pretty dull.
His life was a tragedy that people laughed at.
Those laughing the hardest at him are not much better.
Typical background:
Carlin was born on May 12, 1937, and grew up in the Morningside Heights section of Manhattan, raised by a single mother. After dropping out of school in the ninth grade, he joined the Air Force in 1954. He received three court-martials and numerous disciplinary punishments, according to his official Web site.
While in the Air Force he started working as an off-base disc jockey at a radio station in Shreveport, La., and after receiving a general discharge in 1957, took an announcing job at WEZE in Boston.
“Fired after three months for driving mobile news van to New York to buy pot,” his Web site says.
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“I was doing superficial comedy entertaining people who didn't really care: Businessmen, people in nightclubs, conservative people. And I had been doing that for the better part of 10 years when it finally dawned on me that I was in the wrong place doing the wrong things for the wrong people,” Carlin reflected recently as he prepared for his 14th HBO special, “It's Bad For Ya.”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,370121,00.html
The above was an interesting statement. “Conservative” people aren't the ones throwing money at him for his obscene performances. Yet he remains in denial. Carlin is RIGHT about doing the WRONG THINGS for the WRONG PEOPLE at the WRONG PLACES. He was in LIBERAL HEAVEN on earth. Maybe, just maybe he did repent privately.
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