Posted on 06/20/2008 12:31:19 AM PDT by stevelackner
“According to law it is”
I’ll add abortion to your list of great rebuttles to Soliton’s statement above. I guess, according to the “it’s the law” argument, that I should just accept the murder of babies as an acceptable behaviour.
You seem to be of some intelligence. Which makes me wonder - why do you find it necessary to mock retarded people?
Just asking.
Unless you are blowing up abortion clinics, you ARE accepting abortion because it is the law.
Research has found that potential effects of smoking during pregnancy include an increased chance of genetic abnormalities. There has been associations made between pregnant women smoking and increased chance of cleft lip, cleft palate, problems with bowel, eyes, ears and spinal cord. There are also increased abnormalities found with the placentas. The effects of smoking goes beyond the birth. There have been links made between women smoking during pregnancy and their children developing respiratory problems, such as asthma, later in childhood.
http://www.pregnancy.com.au/smoking_during_pregnancy.htm
“Unless you are blowing up abortion clinics, you ARE accepting abortion because it is the law.”
What a ridiculous response. Fine, since you aren’t killing democrats, you are a socialist. Makes about as much sense doesn’t it. Of course, I shouldn’t have expected a reasoned response from you.
Pregnant chicks shouldn’t be hanging out in bars. And from my experience, the people who bitch the most about smoke in bars/restaurants are grossly overweight slobs who have much more important health issues to worry about.
“Research has found that potential effects of smoking during pregnancy include an increased chance of genetic abnormalities. There has been associations made between pregnant women smoking and increased chance of cleft lip, cleft palate, problems with bowel, eyes, ears and spinal cord. There are also increased abnormalities found with the placentas. The effects of smoking goes beyond the birth. There have been links made between women smoking during pregnancy and their children developing respiratory problems, such as asthma, later in childhood.”
Since many of the the Boomers had mothers who smoked while pregnant,this would perhaps explain their extraordinarily poor health,huh? (Sarcasm off)
Brainwashing is alive and well,isn’t it?
Passive smoking increases miscarriage risk
14 May 2004 - written by BUPA’s Health Information Team
It is known that mothers who smoke are at a greater risk of miscarriage if they continue to smoking during pregancy. However, the effect of a partner smoking (passive smoking) during pregnancy on the risk of miscarriage has not been clearly resolved. A joint American and Chinese study, published in the May 15 2004 issue of the American Journal of Epidemiology, has found that if a woman’s partner smokes, the risk of miscarriage is raised. And if the partner smokes more than 20 cigarettes a day, the risk is significantly increased.
Below we look at the issue in more depth:
How was the study carried out?
The joint American and Chinese study looked at 526 newly married women who did not smoke or drink from 1996 to 1998. They were all textile workers in China and they were put into groups according to the number of cigarettes a day their husbands smoked: more than 20 cigarettes a day, less than 20 cigarettes a day and no cigarettes (nonsmoker).
The researchers tested the women’s urine every day to see whether or not they had become pregnant. When the women did become pregnant, their pregnancy was followed closely.
What did the study find?
There was little difference between the groups of women as to their likelihood to become pregnant. Therefore, in this study, the smoking habits of the father did not seem to affect the chance of pregnancy.
However, the number of cigarettes the father smoked did seem to have an effect on the risk of spontaneous miscarriage within the first six weeks:
of the women whose partners smoked more than 20 cigarettes a day, nearly one-third of the women lost their babies within six weeks of conceiving
of the women whose partners did not smoke at all, roughly one-fifth of the women had a miscarriage within the first six weeks of conceiving
Also, the number of cigarettes the father smoked seemed to have an effect on the likelihood of eventually becoming pregnant and giving birth:
of the women whose partners smoked more than 20 cigarettes a day, 76 percent became pregnant and gave birth
of the women whose partners did not smoke at all, 84 percent became pregnant and gave birth
What are the conclusions from these findings?
The researchers from the study concluded that heavy smoking by the father increased the risk of early pregnancy loss. They suggest that this is either due to exposure of the male sperm to the effects of smoking, or due to the mother being exposed to the effects of passive smoking.
Why does smoking raise the risk of miscarriage?
The researchers believe that smoking by the father could damage the chromosomes in his sperm, making the sperm less likely to produce viable babies. Also the researchers think that the father’s cigarette smoke is inhaled passively by the mother and this can affect the developing fetus. It is thought that tobacco smoke may alter a pregnant woman’s levels of female sex hormones and that it may reduce the amount of blood that flows through the placenta and nourishes the baby.
What can be done to lower the risk of miscarriage?
It is worth remembering that miscarriage is a common event and many women experience two miscarriages, purely by chance. Often there is no underlying problem when a miscarriage occurs and there is every chance of a successful pregnancy in the future.
In over 60 percent of miscarriages, there is a problem with the way genetic material from the egg and sperm has combined and the resulting baby is unable to develop. There is no other reason for this than bad luck. Another cause is the embryo failing to implant into the lining of the womb. Doctors dont full understood why this happens, but sometimes it can be due to a hormone imbalance.
Miscarriage is not thought to be caused by stress or lack of rest. However, it is helpful for both partners to stop smoking before trying to conceive and remain smoke-free once pregnancy has begun.
If you experience three consecutive miscarriages, it is advisable to visit your doctor to undergo tests to rule out any possible specific cause such as hormonal imbalances, abnormalities of the uterus or a problem with the immune system.
For more on miscarriage, please see our Miscarriage factsheet.
http://www.bupa.co.uk/health_information/html/health_news/140504smoke.html
Oh my God,you’re giving me a headache with the results of the “studies”.
Absolute nonsense !
Science is a bitch when it conflicts with your addiction eh?
Smokers literally stink. They smell bad. They make their poor children smell bad. They make it impossible for people who hate the smell to go to bars. Fine. I don't go.
Just don't try to make it into a noble act. It's what the gays do. They try to elevate their vice into a virtue.
Nice way to talk to a fellow freeper.
BTW, with all your cut/paste of "science" you forgot one itsy bitsy little point: COORELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSATION.
From your link: “Bupa is a global health and care organisation.”
Nope, not in their interest to control the lives of others, nope not at all. Do you work for this “global health care” organization?
“However, the number of cigarettes the father smoked did seem to have an effect on the risk of spontaneous miscarriage within the first six weeks:
of the women whose partners smoked more than 20 cigarettes a day, nearly one-third of the women lost their babies within six weeks of conceiving”
It’s funny that they didn’t even bother to include phrasing that the father’s smoked IN THE PRESENCE of the women who lost their babies to miscarriage. Keep swallowing the agenda driven dribble.
You are a great example of the new “republican” that has given us McCain. Congratulations for your part of the destruction of our once great Republic.
“Smokers literally stink. They smell bad. They make their poor children smell bad.
The liking,or disliking,of odors is subjective. You don’t like the smell of smokers,fine,no problem.
I hate the smell of beer but I would neither suggest that people stop drinking it nor would I say that beer drinkers stink .
Grow up and try being a wee bit more tolerant.
Addiction is an ugly thing. Beer drinkers do not pour beer on everyone in the room. Neither do they pour beer on their children's hair and clothes. If they did it would be child abuse. I think smoking in an enclosed space with children present IS child abuse.
I mock retarded people.
Did you ever watch the movie “There’s Something About Mary”?
They made a fortune and got a lot of laughs mocking retarded people. I even have a friend of mine whose brother has down syndrome and who has a sense of humor who laughed at the Matt Damon characters line “My real passion is my hobby...I work with retards.”
Everyone is sick of this PC BS.
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