Decision coming June 16, next big day in Haditha case

Defend Our Marines ^ | June 9, 2008 | Nathaniel R. Helms

[xzins]

I agree. All we’ve heard of is Mattis’ testimony.

I guess there might have been others that were not reported. Reporting is the issue for us on the outside of the courtroom.

The other input could have been written. There’s no telling how much of that the judge could have received.

But, I’m with you. I’m betting on a dismissal.

If I were Col Ewers supervisor, I’d nail him on his next efficiency report for failing to recognize that he had ruined the government’s case.

[bigheadfred]

Ruin the govt’s. case or ruin the lives(more) of the Chessani family. I know what I would do. Probably why I’m not a high ranking military officer.

[Marine_Uncle]

Hopefully we shall soon get some real good news.

[RaceBannon]

You’re so wrong

It was the other team that slimed, all I did was defend someone from the slander of two women on this thread

and I was pushed into revealing dirt to prove I knew what I was saying

the other team found out I did know things

I didn’t slime anyone, I told the complete truth

Prove it otherwise. You’ll see.

[Girlene]

Bumping that!

[xzins]

When this is over, there really should be accountability. Everyone thinks in terms of Murtha, and he definitely is at the top of the list, but there are others who threw their brothers under the bus. They should be held to public scorn.

Ewers is on that list.

So is Solis.

I’m debating whether to include Mattis and Helland, but perhaps they were operating on the advice of a prejudiced chief legal counselor.

SecNav

COS Marine Corps

Laughner

Others?

[Girlene]

I’m so-so on Solis. Who will create the accountability? I’m not sure more than one or two news sources even mentioned 1st Lt. Grayson’s not guilty verdict.

McGirk is not a “brother”, but he deserves plenty of scorn for blowing this up into a “massacre”.

On the flip-side, here’s a few that deserve praise for their defense or pursuit of these Marines’ stories:

Redrover, Nat Helms, Phil Brennan, Arun Rath (producer, “Rules of Engagement”), and the many who donated to the Marines’ funds.

[jude24]

If the prosecution offered any evidence to prove that there was no UCI, I didn't read about it. From what I can see, the judge's decision comes down to, "Do I take General Mattis at his word that there was no UCI?", because Mattis's testimony is about the only thing the prosecution offered.

That technically is valid evidence. How persuasive it is is up to the judge.

[Girlene]

Enough.

[RaceBannon]

It’s only enough when the slander stops.

[Religion Moderator]

Stop the personal attacks or leave the thread.

[brityank]

Thank you; we’ll try to keep the noise down.

[Girlene]

Thanks!

[jazusamo]

Thank you, RM and brityank for restoring some sanity.

[brityank]

I think that the senior JAG Corps and NCIS/CID has a lot of culpability in these cases. Their coercive tactics and plea dealing under duress led to the hyper visibility across the board. Over charging seems to have become a way of life for prosecutors, both military and civilian, and it’s high time the brakes were applied.

Good example is the case near my hometown in PA; a grandfather left his baby grandson in his car at work, but the daughter and son-in-law do not want charges brought, as that would only make the pain deeper. If the prosecutor works for us, he shouldn’t act; I’m betting he will — as a warning to all other parents. As if any parent willfully does that type of deed!