Posted on 05/27/2008 7:09:52 PM PDT by Libloather
Where do you find that index. Sedwick County is close to where Obama’s Grandmother was from. I still don’t buy the comment but my Father who is 83 years old he is a WW2 Vet who happened to be in Germany in 1945 as the concentration camps were liberated. Over the years he has not talked about the what he saw. Earlier this year we were in Israel at Yad Vashem and he told me more during our visit there then he ever has in my 50 years. Maybe he never talked as its a painful thing for any human being to talk about.
But my Father is a true American and always wears his flag pin when in a suit. So again Obama paints a off balanced picture of who he is and what he believes.
My Dad as a war Vet thinks So the flag pin issue is big with Vets and the not having the hand over heart as my Father has is during the Star Spangled Banner is a big issue for some voters.
So He spins another Gaffe to the voters.
It bugs the heck out of me too.
> It bugs the heck out of me too.
We owe it to those who came before us to validate-or-otherwise this claim.
If Obama’s uncle/great-uncle served with the 89th Infantry as Obama claims he did, then his great-uncle deserves our Respect and Gratitude. (Obama however had nothing to do with that!)
If he didn’t, then Obama deserves our opprobrium and scorn and strongest possible sanction and derision and contempt. And he ought to face charges for fraud, as a Valor Thief.
At least McCain served. Unlike the war-wimp Bill Clinton. Unlike the Hildebeast. And unlike Obama.
For shame!
Hussein has to go back two generations in his family to find someone who served.
In my family, we have had men serve in every war since my ancestors arrived on American soil in 1895.
One uncle even rode with Black Jack Pershing into Mexico in pursuit of Pancho Villa!
Does that qualify me to be President of the United States?
That’s an excellent point. I’m younger than Obama, and I have a great uncle who served in World War I. I wouldn’t bring that up to show how committed my family was to military service.
Can you beat McCain?
> It bugs the heck out of me too.
Mate, I believe this is an issue that Obama can be gotten on, big-time.
Stolen Valor is an ugly thing. He is stealing valor to become POTUS.
That sucks. That is wrong. He should not be allowed to get away with this.
We can stop that from happening. I am a foreigner, so arguably it might not matter to me. But it does because it should, for all the right reasons.
Does it matter to you?
I bet it does.
Lets make it matter to everyone else.
No mention of Buchenwald or Auschwitz or Charles Payne here in an interview with Obama on the Ancestry.com’s
Military pagehttp://landing.ancestry.com/military/candidates.aspx?html=obama
>>> In January 1942, Illinois Sen. Barak Obama’s 24-year-old grandfather, Stanley Dunham, said goodbye to his wife and infant and enlisted in the U.S. Army. “He signed up for duty, joined Patton’s army and marched across Europe,” said Sen. Obama of his grandfather’s service. But Obama’s American military heritage extends further back.
In 1917, Obama’s great-grandfather Rolla Payne registered for the WWI draft. This 24-year-old bookkeeper worked for an oil well supply company in Tulsa, Oklahoma and would be called up to serve in the First World War. (Another great-grandfather and a great-great-grandfather also registered for the draft, although neither served in the Great War.)
Obama’s great-great-great-grandfather Robert Wolfey served in the Ohio Infantry during the Civil War. This Union soldier kept the rank of private throughout his service. <<<
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FYI....Ancestry.com’s military records are free to access til the 31st in honor of Memorial Day, all the way to the Revolutionary War. Was able to document things that had only been talked about in the family. PDFs of WWI Draft cards are great, as they have signatures, address, full birthdates, employer, spouse, etc.
Agreed, and we should go through these records like biblical scholars looking for the dead sea scrolls.
Did he really have to pull this stunt on Memorial Day weekend?
He doesn’t even know the difference between Memorial Day and Veterans Day. Obama, the Muslim militant is a incompetent fool.
Did the US NAVY steam into Buchenwald???
From The History Channel COMMENTS this evening:
"Now the Obama campaign is saying that Obama actually was speaking of his grandmother's brother, Charlie Payne, assigned to the 89th Infantry Division,and it was Buchenwald, not Auschwitz, that old Charlie helped to liberate.
So let's look at Charlie Payne's enlistment records:
Charles W. Payne, born 1924, enlisted 10Nov42, Navy, 6293977 Registered, order #12019, Kansas City, Wyandotte Co., Board #4
This is going to get good."
Oh yeah!
I can’t decide who is the biggest liar—Hillary or Hussein?
Maybe they will inspire a new reality show by that name:
“America’s Biggest Liar”.
I'm not so sure about that. "Death camp" in this context refers to vernichtungslager, "annihilation camps." Buchenwald, to my recollection, was one of the arbeitslager, work camps.
Of course there was death in horrible numbers in both types of camps, but only the vernichtungslager were designed for large-scale industrial killing.
Of course, Auschwitz was technically an arbeitslage as well, since the vernichtungslage was down the road a bit at Birkenau, so perhaps on that thin reed Barack can hang his hat.
http://www.kshs.org/genealogists/military/wwiiveteransresults.php?page=421&branch=N
Not if Uncle Charlie was actually in the Navy, as it now appears.
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