Posted on 05/21/2008 5:50:14 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
I used to be with YWAM (Youth with a Mission), a Christian missionary organization. The headquarters is in Kailua-Kona Hawaii and we all had the same address. I guess you could call it a community. How odd it would have been if the whole campus had been raided and all the children rounded up. The FLDS seem pretty passive; easy pickin’s. Like candy from a baby. The authorities went in with such force, there was no way out.
Thanks. I’ve been trying to make the point that there were multiple residences, and the search warrant makes it clear that there were multiple residences.
Others still argue that it was a “single residence”, even if it had multiple buildings.
Hopefully, the clear evidence from the official search warrant will put that false statement to rest.
I don’t think there was any question that the warrant gave them access to the entire set of facilities.
Actually, a LOT of people have said the CPS didn't recognise them. A bunch of the parents have even written to the Governor of Utah asking him to intervene and get the courts of Texas to accept their Utah birth and marriage certificates.
And in this story, the girl showed a drivers license and the CPS ignored it.
And frankly, CPS telling me people lied to them doesn't carry much weight anymore.
No, it's not true for any universities at all. They mostly like to give lots and lots and lots of addresses and convince the USPS to deliver to all of them!
Sorry, but you're just not making any sense. Here are two examples, found in minutes, which show you are incorrect.
How about Yale University:
"The Central Mailroom is responsible for picking up Yale's mail from the Brewery Street Post Office and distributing it, along with campus mail, to departments and mailrooms around campus. The Central Mailroom also delivers Yale's outgoing mail to the Brewery Street terminal at the close of each day."
"U.S. Mail -- Each week the Central Mailroom receives over 65,000 pieces of mail from the U.S. Postal Service! The mail that is properly addressed using the department's box number and correct ZIP Code is received bagged from the U.S. Postal Service. This mail is put directly on to the truck for that route and is delivered that day. Mail that is not properly addressed must be hand sorted."
The address for Harvard Law School, which has about 2000 students and faculty, and multiple buildings is:
Harvard Law School 1563 Mass Ave. Cambridge, MA 02138
The real point isn't about what USPS rules are though, it is whether or not USPS mail delivery addresses have anything to do with a legal determination of what constitutes a household. They don't. All the mail for a hotel goes to one address - right? But nobody in their right mind would say that everyone staying in a hotel on one given night made up one "household".
I have know idea who stepford is, but how has the Texas cult caper coming? Working out real good for the state of Texas is it? So how many rapist and killers have they arrested and prosecuted from this compound?
Well, I’ve got NO relationship to anything Mormon, except that I happen to work with a few. I definitely have little regard for their religion, or theology. I do like their conservative views on a multitude of issues of importance, which makes them strong allies in a political organization.
Which is why I don’t like discussing religion on a political blog.
USPS, BTW, sits on the Board of Geographic Names. The CIA "chairs" that Board. There are other federal agencies on the board.
To a degree all the footwork on addresses and address systems is done by local municipal authorities. Any deviations from established standards published in the Domestic Mail Manual need approval from the Board before they can be used.
Last one I recall involved a condo operation in Florida that required 5 lines of addressing material before you got to the City and State line. It was DISAPPROVED.
Which is to say, F(lds) described itself thus and so and provided a single address. Presumably this was all OK within the bounds of postal rules. So, it is what it is and is not some other thing. The firm frame will provide supplemental information concerning the nature of the delivery stop.
Got a link for that?
No idea either...lol
Probably not but I might go up and scatter your amanita muscaria flower pots and run off the reindeer.
Your note was about New Mexico. This is a Texas situation. Did you want to change the subject?
I believe you should refer to an earlier posting of mine than this one.
When the FLDS woman in the video asked to see the search warrant, the law enforcement officer seemed disturbed. She had him right by the you-know-what’s and he knew it but no one cares because these people have no rights. It's like they are not recognized as legal human beings, sort of like Dred Scott.
Think of times in history when a community's children were removed/separated from the parents - during slavery, during WW-II, when the Japanese were interned. Not pretty.
CPS and IRS have a lot in common.
Other materials were surfaced and it turned out that CPS kept 19 of them because they were telling lies about being adults, and were, instead, minors.
The actions taken by CPS are not considered kidnapping. On the other hand, the 100 kids you kept there at the camp when you knew they didn't have a mother or father in the F(lds) were arguably "kidnapped" just like the two boys that Devlin character kidnapped several years back.
Sure — but you were complaining that there were threads like this one, and that somehow this thread was preventing you from having a thread about some other current event.
I was just noting that you don’t have to read the threads you aren’t interested in, and you can start threads for any subject you like.
And for the record, I am not a mod, and I have no authority to tell anybody what to do, I’m just trying to be helpful.
I don’t know how rural mail delivery is done in Texas, but here on a regular large ranch- as in cattle raising operation- with no connection to FLDS or any other group- there is often multiple dwellings and buildings (grown children & employees homes) there is usually ONE address for the whole place and everyone’s mail is usually delivered to a mailbox where the ranch road intersects a highway. I have had mail delivered this way most of my life and I cannot for the life of me understand if someone else on the ranch in another house was abusing children or committing any other crime how authorities could drag me into it because we all lived on the same ranch.
Every time it is brought up how these people got their mail, it is made to sound as if they were doing something unusual- it wouldn’t be unusual at all where I live. I wish someone that lives in that area of Texas and knows how the real ranches in that area that have more than one family living there get their mail would post it.
Did these people really demand a special- different way to receive their mail or is this the way it is done in that area??
NO one said they lived in the same dorm. There’s a distinct difference between “residence”, which is a legal status, and a “dormitory”, which is a building.
They have mastermind a clever organized disinformation campaign? Hmmm...
It was just 2 weeks ago when many like yourself were claiming these people in this "cult" were zombie like robots, that were not capable of critical thinking.
So which is it?
I know of some other christian organizations that have similar arrangements, but I’ve been loathe to mention any of them, lest they be falsely accused of being like FLDS.
I would note that earlier in this thread, I mentioned a local Church of God camp meeting place, and another poster actually suggested they were linked to an evil criminal cult.
So my fears are somewhat justified.
But I’m guessing nobody is going to go after YWAM. They are a good group.
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