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Let Lauren Live!
ChristtheKingMaine ^ | May 7, 2008 | Judie Brown

Posted on 05/08/2008 3:14:03 AM PDT by 8mmMauser

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To: Dante3

The trouble w/cases like Karen Weber is that people like George Felos come calling and he’s a hypnotist who dabbles in mind control. I’m serious. If he goes near Karen’s hubby, her life might be on the line.


461 posted on 06/05/2008 3:46:52 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( LAUREN RICHARDSON NEEDS YOU. Pls visit www.lifeforlauren.org)
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To: Dante3
Judge (term loosely) Greer No Shelter from the Storm (poor baby. afraid at work.)

http://www.sptimes.com/2008/01/20/Life/Schiavo_judge_gets_no.shtml

462 posted on 06/05/2008 3:56:35 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( LAUREN RICHARDSON NEEDS YOU. Pls visit www.lifeforlauren.org)
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To: Dante3; Saundra Duffy

http://www.sptimes.com/2008/01/20/Life/Schiavo_judge_gets_no.shtml


463 posted on 06/05/2008 3:57:12 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( LAUREN RICHARDSON NEEDS YOU. Pls visit www.lifeforlauren.org)
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To: 8mmMauser

NY CONSIDERS BODY PART AMBULANCES to expedite organ harvesting. (www.notdeadyet.org might object). http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9143NHO0&show_article=1


464 posted on 06/05/2008 4:00:27 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( LAUREN RICHARDSON NEEDS YOU. Pls visit www.lifeforlauren.org)
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To: floriduh voter

Those people have an agenda.


465 posted on 06/05/2008 4:12:16 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: 8mmMauser

Thank you for asking our pro-life friends to pray for Debbie!


466 posted on 06/05/2008 6:51:00 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: All; floriduh voter; Dawnsblood
Ping to this thread by Dawnsblood following my own post #413, "The Audacity of Death." Thanks, FV for the ping.

And again thanks Daniel Allott.

According to Barack Obama, Gianna Jessen shouldn't exist.

Miss Jessen is an exquisite example of what antiabortion advocates call a "survivor." Well into her third trimester of pregnancy, Gianna's biological mother was injected with a saline solution intended to induce a chemical abortion at a Los Angeles County abortion center. Eighteen hours later, and precious minutes before the abortionist's arrival, Gianna emerged. Premature and with severe injuries that resulted in cerebral palsy. But alive.....

The Audacity of Death

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467 posted on 06/06/2008 2:46:35 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Sun

:o)


468 posted on 06/06/2008 2:47:13 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Although the news is quiet today, we keep watch for Karen, Lauren, Haleigh Poutre, and Sam Golubchuk, and watch for others.


469 posted on 06/06/2008 2:53:22 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser; floriduh voter; Dawnsblood

Gianna Jessen is one of the most amazing people in the world and ANYBODY who hears her story and remains pro-death is truly devoid of a soul.


470 posted on 06/06/2008 5:14:15 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: 8mmMauser
It is all from the same mindset really. Some people are inconvenient to some people and many of us (not Freepers, Americans in general) seem to believe that is reason enough to kill people. I hope and pray Lauren is given a chance to live. I think many have said it but I’ll repeat “A society is judged by how it treats it's least desirable members”.
471 posted on 06/06/2008 5:24:20 AM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: wagglebee

Remember Terri Schiavo. Keep Lauren Richardson and Karen Weber in our prayers. Seems like the courts and death care system prefers to take away the rights of women more so than men. It gives new meaning to “suffragette”.


472 posted on 06/06/2008 7:08:31 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( LAUREN RICHARDSON NEEDS YOU. Pls visit www.lifeforlauren.org)
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Karen Weber in an article by Carrie Hutchens...

Governor Minner, please note: Please keep Lauren Richardson off death row.

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Karen Weber, a 57 year old woman from Florida, suffered a stroke in December. Husband, Raymond Weber, has sought to have Mrs. Weber's feeding tube removed claiming she is in a vegetative state. However, according to "Family split on feeding tube - Schiavo case remembered" (The Washington Times -- June 5, 2008), "A judge issued an injunction, prohibiting the tube's removal, and has appointed a committee composed of a neurologist and two psychologists to determine her competency."

In March of 2005, Florida held the public and horrendous execution of an innocent young woman, who had mysteriously collapsed on February 25, 1990. It was a death that stretched through thirteen days of unspeakable torture and hideous cruelty that would not be allowed if done unto an animal. But it wasn't done unto an animal -- it was done to Terri Schiavo. Ms. Schiavo died at 9:05 a.m. on March 31, 2005 with the world watching. Will we be forced to watch again?

The Washington Times quoted Mr. Weber's attorney (Colin Cameron)...
"Mr. Weber is of the opinion that Karen does not want to live as a vegetable and that she would prefer the body to take its natural course," Mr. Cameron said.
Death by dehydration and starvation is not a "natural course." It is a forced and agonizing death.

To order no heroic measures to counter an event created by the body giving up, is one thing. To order the removal of a feeding tube is quite another. Removing a feeding tube is creating the event and staging an intended outcome from the onset. That is not "letting someone go" -- that is "making the person go."

It is difficult for some to feel comfortable with Florida having jurisdiction over helpless individuals who have fallen victim to illness or injury after the Schiavo and Ted Stith cases. (In January 2006, Ted Stith Sr had a stroke while visiting in Florida. On or about January 31, 2006, he died as a result of death by dehydration and starvation with no time given for a hint of recovery.) Will Mrs. Weber share their legacy?

On the other hand, unlike the Schiavo case, the article goes on to say...
"Mr. Weber did not contest the March injunction that kept his wife's feeding tube in place, Mr. Cameron noted. If the judge determines that Mrs. Weber has the capacity to make her own choices, Mr. Weber would abide by the decision.

"There is no intent at this point to fight what's going on," Mr. Cameron said.

Martha Tatro, Mrs. Weber's mother, objects to the removal of the feeding tube and has hired attorney Joseph Rodowicz to assist in her efforts to prevent it from happening. Both Mrs. Tatro and Mr. Rodowicz are adamant that Karen Weber is responsive and deserves a chance to live. Thus, a reason the judge has issued the injunction and appointed a committee to review Mrs. Weber's condition and make a determination and recommendation.
Mr. Weber may very well have the best of intentions and be under the belief that removal of a feeding tube is a quiet, natural and peaceful way to go. (Some in Florida preach such to be so.) However, one can hope that as he gathers further and more complete information, he will come to realize that the forced and agonizing death by dehydration and starvation should never be an option considered and therefore determine that it won't be.

The Horrendous Killing: Death by Dehydration & Starvation

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473 posted on 06/07/2008 2:49:14 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Terri's Listers ping to above post on Karen Weber!

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474 posted on 06/07/2008 2:52:58 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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LifeSiteNews does an update on Karen Weber...

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WEST PALM BEACH, Florida, June 5, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Another Florida woman who receives food and hydration through a feeding tube, is at the center of a court case that is strongly reminiscent of the Terri Schiavo case.

Karen Weber, 57, was hospitalized after she suffered a stroke in December and receives food and hydration through a feeding tube. Her husband Raymond Weber has gone to court, over the wishes of her mother, to have the feeding tube removed so that she can be "allowed to die".

The Associated Press says that Raymond Weber argues his wife is in a "vegetative state" but his lawyer says that he does not want his situation "to turn into a Terri Schiavo-type circus". Attorney Colin Cameron said, "Mr. Weber is of the opinion that Karen does not want to live as a vegetable and that she would prefer the body to take its natural course".

In March, a judge ruled for Karen's mother, Martha Tatro, and ordered that Karen's feeding tube be maintained. The judge also appointed a committee to evaluate her condition.

Karen's family says they will "be defending Karen to the end". The family says that Karen communicates using body language and told her family she wanted to keep her feeding tube in March and April. Karen shows signs that she is conscious and alert.

The attorney for the Tatro family, Joseph Rodowicz, said, "I actually witnessed her moving her hands and responding. Based on that, my view of the law is that she's competent enough to make her own determinations, and she made it clear to me that she does not want to go to hospice."

Rodowicz said, "People wake up from comas. ... She's certainly not in a vegetative state."

Colin Cameron said that Mr. Weber is willing to wait for the outcome of the assessment of Karen's competency and did not challenge the court order. "There is no intent at this point to fight what's going on," AP quotes Cameron saying.

Alex Schadenberg, the chairman of the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition, decried this most recent "Schiavo-like" case, which he says is merely the latest in a growing list of such cases.

"The case of Terri Schiavo was a turning point in the history of the issue of euthanasia and assisted suicide," Schadenberg told LifeSiteNews.com. "While people grieved and mourned the death of Terri, the euthanasia lobby accomplished its goal of making sure that Terri died by dehydration.

"With all these horrific cases, the first case is always the greatest shock to the public. Now that the option of dehydrating a person to death is not only publicly known, but also supported by much of the medical community and upheld by the courts we are facing many more similar cases."
 
He concluded, "We can only hope that people everywhere will wake up to the horror of what euthanasia by dehydration entails and force lawmakers and ethicists to reverse the course of decisions and stop this horror from continuing."

Florida Woman's Family Goes to Court to Stop Feeding Tube Removal Husband doesn't want "Terri Schiavo type media circus"

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475 posted on 06/07/2008 3:01:31 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Lesforlife
From WorldNetDaily this morning, an excerpt. Please follow the link to the story...

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The Alaska Supreme Court has granted a motion sought by an attorney working with the Alliance Defense Fund to keep life support systems operating for a patient who could die within minutes of those tubes being removed.

The little-reported case bears some similarities to the extended battle waged by the family of Terri Schiavo, on whom WND reported extensively, to prevent her death by starvation and dehydration....................

Court orders hospital to keep feeding patient Another Terri Schaivo? But this husband battling doctors for wife's life

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476 posted on 06/07/2008 3:08:39 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
An essay in the Christian Post...

What if the Culture War is over and we’ve lost? What if it was lost a long time ago? What if it was lost long before the recent California Supreme Court decision, before the Terri Schiavo fiasco, and even before Roe vs. Wade?

What if the litany of abuses we’ve witnessed over the last decades are not the signs of progressively slipping morals but rather the natural consequence of morals having slipped once and for all? How we answer this question informs how we - especially those of us who are Christians - proceed. If we have in fact lost the culture war then we need to ask ourselves how we lost it and how we can rebuild to fight again, and this time be victorious.

Observers who know their history and understand human nature can see where things are going and know that the means by which liberal activists pursue their agenda can backfire on them. Today the gay “marriage” activists in California are pleased because they have got their way. It is entirely plausible, though, that a decade hence courts might employ the same tactic but in a manner the gays find disagreeable. Alas for them, it will be too late! Somehow, though, these activists - and many sympathetic Americans with them - can’t see that.................

Will Admitting Defeat in the Culture War Revitalize Evangelism?

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477 posted on 06/07/2008 3:13:18 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
A glimpse of times past! It was well over a year ago, when T'wit was around as our staunch core of strength. Trolls have drifted on or went up in smoke since, and to our deep regret, T'wit has passed, R.I.P., But he set a standard which remains, and a memory which permeates all our efforts from those days forward. Thanks, FV, for the reminder.

What a privilege it was to count T'wit on our side!

#132

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>> Brain on the left is a healthy brain, brain on the right is Schiavo's brain.

You are perpetuating a scam.

"...those two particular CT slices, that I have seen released by the press as 'evidence,' resort to trickery... when someone resorts to image trickery to make one point, your B.S. meter starts to go off about everything else they claim to be true."

A Freeper doc explains the scam used in comparing these two images

See also his posts at #94 and #138 in the same thread.

132 posted on Sunday, April 01, 2007 2:01:36 AM by T'wit (Of course liberals have brains! They can’t ALWAYS be wrong without thinking hard how to do it.)

The new meaning of Easter: Terri Schiavo

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478 posted on 06/07/2008 3:32:06 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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FV pinged me on the thread The Audacity of Death by Dawnsblood. What would have Barack Hussain Muhammad Obama done on behalf of this child? Excerpted from Fox News...

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A mother who decided to abort her son because he may have inherited a life-threatening kidney condition is overjoyed that he survived the procedure.

Jodie Percival of Nottinghamshire, England, said she and her fiancee made the decision to abort baby Finley when she was eight weeks pregnant.

Percival's first son Thane died of multicystic dysplastic kidneys — which causes cysts to grow on the kidneys of an unborn baby — and her second child Lewis was born with serious kidney damage and currently has just one kidney, the Daily Mail reported.

Click here for a photo of baby Finley.

Baby Miraculously Survives Abortion, Expected to Live 'Normal' Life

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From the thread, "The Audacity of Death",

The Audacity of Death

479 posted on 06/07/2008 3:44:23 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

I used to look forward to T’wit’s posts. He is missed.


480 posted on 06/07/2008 5:39:18 AM PDT by Dante3
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