Posted on 05/07/2008 9:06:11 AM PDT by Politicalmom
PING!!
Some good legal stuff in this one.
FReepmail to be added to the FLDS Eldorado Legal Case Ping List
The fact it has taken a month for this to come out just shows how incompetent the reporting has been on this story.
Ping
Donny and Marie may need to do a fund raiser...
The legal fees are going to get big fast...
So the only problem now is convincing the state of Texas that they are co-operating with honesty and integrity, something they’re not known for doing and something they haven’t done in the past.
Have you noticed the similarities between them, who advocate and encourage their followers to lie to the outside world which they teach is of the devil, and other groups? That sure sounds awfully familiar. I wonder where I could have heard that from? (Yeah, right)
Skordas said the best thing FLDS members could do right now is fully cooperate with authorities in their investigation, because that would likely result in getting their children back sooner.
The government isn't responsible for thier mistakes because by god acting on an anonymous phone call, one which by law must remain anonymous, is acting in good faith. No where does the U.S. Constitution state that you have a right not to incrminate yourself. No where does it state that you cannot have your property searched and your children kidnapped by the governement based on fraud. No where does it state that you have the right to face your accussors. No where does it state that you have a right to a speedy trial.
Oh wait, it does state all those things. I must have just missed the part of the U.S.Constitution where the government was granted the right to kidnap your kids, without due process, for your childrens for their own good. Ah, now I feel better. So glad the government is here to protect me from myself, what a relief knowing this.
If you abuse your children, you don’t deserve to have them.
I shake my head in wonder at those who opine thus from their safe academic stronghold. I recall a scene from the original “Airport” movie in which a stewardess had succeeded in wresting an exploding briefcase from a deranged passenger, only to have an officious, sniffy-nosed woman snatch it back from the stewardess and restore it to the mad bomber.
Acting absent the facts is never a really good idea.
P.S. My idea would be to hand back the boys and keep the girls in care. If they are really such an attractive religion, they will soon attract more eager wimminfolk and since the eye is now upon them, might possibly treat them somewhat better.
So Texas takes EVERY pregnant 14-year old from their family? Or just the polygamous ones?
When Texas starts doing what they did to the the FLDS to every pregnant teen-ager, ping me. When they break-up every 16-year old shackup situation, ping me. When Texas prosecutes non-polygamous guys sleeping with more than one woman, ping me.
so long as some murderers walk free, no murderer can be apprehended. yeah, that makes sense.
“Ah, now I feel better. So glad the government is here to protect me from myself, what a relief knowing this.”
The government could care less about protecting you from yourself. The government cares about protecting your children from you. And the evidence of need for that is ample.
The mark of a great religion-—
If you open the gates, do people pour in or walk out?
The call wasn’t “anonymous”.
Checking out a report of an abused child by using a legal warrant is not “a mistake”.
There are no criminal charges yet, so your burbling about “facing accusers” and “speedy trials” don’t really apply.
Just because you don’t like the outcome doesn’t mean these people have not had “due process”. The laws regarding the removal of children were followed. Go whine to the Texas government if you don’t like their laws.
Children are not property. Their right not to be abused trumps the rights of their parents to run a brothel.
There’s some rule that the police have to get every other rapist before they can get the flds rapists?
Wow, that’s a new one on me.
If any partner in any above scenario wasn’t there by free will, yes, the onus is on removal.
I don’t think they’d take pregnant girls involved in consensuous, non-statutory rape relationships.
The argument here is that the pregnant teens are in non-consensual relationships with men above the statutory rape limit.
Having worked in a CPC for three years, allow me to say that any pregnant teens who claim the baby daddy is above the statutory rape line (varies from state to state) MUST be reported to the police - it’s the law.
In three years, we had two men we had to report. Virtually all the pregnant girls claimed the baby daddy was at or near their age.
When they keep on making babies to put on welfare for the money, that is fraud, and we the tax payers have to foot the bill.
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