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Gene Disorder Complicates Sect Custody Fight (YFZ/fLDS Daily Thread - 4/27/08)
NPR ^ | April 27, 2008 | N/A

Posted on 04/27/2008 8:40:54 AM PDT by MizSterious

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To: panaxanax

“If you are trying to pass this off as a Scientific document please note that scientists do not use the word “about”.”

Obviously, you missed all the Global Warming Threads.


41 posted on 04/27/2008 10:03:01 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all posters)
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To: pepsionice

Most of the posts here have been about an offshoot of Mormonism. People of the fLDS group might have a right to feel testy about some of what’s coming out about that group, but I don’t see how anyone who’s mainstream LDS has a reason to gripe. Unless, of course, it’s just that want to feel like a victim today. Is that what you’re up to?


42 posted on 04/27/2008 10:04:24 AM PDT by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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To: MizSterious

I can’t figure out what that poster is talking about.

I reread the article, and line by line, each statement is true, and can be sourced.

Some have ears, and can’t hear, eyes and can’t see.


43 posted on 04/27/2008 10:10:48 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all posters)
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To: pepsionice; panaxanax
"anti-Mormon"
Anti-Mormonism, thank you.

"...because of their vision of the religion."
Here's your chance to correct our misunderstanding about a "religion" which produces the plethora of evils we've seen discussed here lately.

Please start with the whole "men become gods" thing to see if you can twist it away from blasphemy.

44 posted on 04/27/2008 10:11:03 AM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: pepsionice
Bravo! I’ve been saying this for a number of days. There is a whole segment of society that will say or agree to anything that anti-Mormon...because of their vision of the religion.

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45 posted on 04/27/2008 10:13:02 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
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I’d like to apologize for all my typos today—trying to make the preparations for Sunday dinner, so I’m back & forth between the kitchen and the office, and so in my hurry, I’m not doing a proper job of editing.


46 posted on 04/27/2008 10:13:14 AM PDT by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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To: MizSterious; greyfoxx39
Okay, let me say it this way so that you can compare the group (greyfoxx39/mormonhaters/bigots) that you have aligned yourself with to the group that I am defending (LDS NOT FLDS) repeat after me....LDS NOT FLDS.....one more time.....LDS NOT FLDS.<<< There should be no mystery now where I stand.....LDS NOT FLDS.

Your group compares everyone that defends the LDS (again, not flds!) as being sympathetic to the alleged actions of the FLDS. We have been called every vile name that can be printed here without being zotted. I have called for restraint in judging those ‘guilty’ from the very beginning and I'll say it again and again. Let the facts come out before we convict. I'll say it as many times as I have to in order to get through the slow thought processes and extreme hatred that your group exhibits against Mormons, now, one more time boys and girls, that LDS, NOT FLDS.

Lesson over.

47 posted on 04/27/2008 10:14:18 AM PDT by panaxanax (Writing in Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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To: UCANSEE2

I think it’s just that some people want to feel like victims today. I haven’t seen any bashing, except from those who claim these articles somehow bash them.


48 posted on 04/27/2008 10:14:41 AM PDT by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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To: panaxanax

Ok. Whatever. Are you done?


49 posted on 04/27/2008 10:16:09 AM PDT by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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To: panaxanax; y'all
"LDS, NOT FLDS."

Slightly different spelling and all...

50 posted on 04/27/2008 10:18:22 AM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: panaxanax
What is it in the general population?

Fumarase deficiency is extremely rare. Until roughly 18 years ago scientists knew of only thirteen cases worldwide .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fumarase_deficiency

51 posted on 04/27/2008 10:24:34 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: MizSterious; pepsionice

>>”WE don’t convict anyone.”<<

BS.

You’ve got everyone that hasn’t agreed 100% with you guilty of _________ (fill in the blank). Better re-read some of your past posts before you say something absurd like “we don’t convict anyone”.

Now, go cook dinner. The men are hungry.

pepsionice....thanks


52 posted on 04/27/2008 10:24:44 AM PDT by panaxanax (Writing in Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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To: MizSterious
And a medical discussion on fumarase deficiency

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/bv.fcgi?rid=gene.chapter.fum

Disease characteristics. Fumarase deficiency is characterized by polyhydramnios, enlarged cerebral ventricles in utero, and fetal brain abnormalities. In the newborn period, findings include severe neurologic abnormalities, poor feeding, failure to thrive, and hypotonia. Early-onset infantile encephalopathy, seizures, and severe developmental delay with microcephaly are also common. Other findings include infantile spasms, trunk hypotonia with hypertonic and dystonic posture of the limbs, athetoid movements, and autistic features. EEG abnormalities such as hypsarrhythmia, facial dysmorphism, and craniofacial dysmorphism have been reported. Findings can include neonatal polycythemia, leukopenia and neutropenia, and mild hepatosplenomegaly. Neuroimaging may reveal nonspecific mild hypomyelination, progressive cerebral atrophy, ventricular dilatation, periventricular cysts, Dandy-Walker malformation, agenesis of the corpus callosum, deficient closure of the sylvian opercula, large lateral ventricles, and diffuse, bilateral polymicrogyria. Many children with fumarase deficiency do not survive infancy or die in childhood; those surviving beyond childhood have severe psychomotor retardation.

Diagnosis/testing. Fumarase deficiency is suspected in infants with multiple severe neurologic abnormalities in the absence of an acute metabolic crisis. Isolated increased concentration of fumaric acid on urine organic acid analysis is highly suggestive. Fumarase deficiency is diagnosed by measurement of enzyme activity in fibroblasts, lymphoblasts, or white blood cells and confirmed by molecular genetic testing. Fumarase enzyme activity in severely affected individuals is generally less than 10% of the control mean; however, residual fumarase enzyme activity in some individuals can be 11-35% of the control mean. Fumarase activity observed in obligate heterozygotes is 22-60% of the control mean. FH, the gene encoding fumarate hydratase, is the only gene associated with fumarase deficiency. Molecular genetic testing for FH is clinically available.

Management. No effective treatment for fumarase deficiency is available. Nutritional intervention (e.g., feeding gastrostomy) may be appropriate in hypotonic children with feeding difficulties. Physical therapy and wheelchairs can be useful for some individuals.

Genetic counseling. Fumarase deficiency is inherited in an autosomal recessive manner and is caused by homozygosity or compound heterozygosity for two FH mutations. When both parents are known to be heterozygotes (i.e., carriers of a FH mutation), each sib of an affected individual has at conception a 25% chance of having fumarase deficiency and a 25% chance of having no mutation in the FH gene. Each sib also has a 50% chance of being a heterozygote. Heterozygotes have a higher than average risk of developing cutaneous leiomyomas and in females, uterine leiomyomas or fibroids; however, the absolute risk is unknown. Carrier testing for at-risk family members is available on a clinical basis once the FH mutations have been identified in the proband. Prenatal diagnosis for pregnancies at increased risk for fumarase deficiency is available by molecular genetic testing, if both mutations in an affected family member are known, and by measurement of fumarase enzyme activity.

53 posted on 04/27/2008 10:30:23 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: panaxanax

Get real. I can’t convict anyone unless I sit on a jury. I’m highly unlikely to sit on a jury in TEXAS because I live in another state. If you don’t like people expressing opinions you don’t like, maybe you should avoid the internet.

And just for the record, I cook Sunday dinner because I enjoy cooking, not because the “men” told me I had to. That’s one of the huge differences between my life, and the slaves who are members of the fLDS.


54 posted on 04/27/2008 10:33:34 AM PDT by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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To: HangnJudge

Thank you, great resource.


55 posted on 04/27/2008 10:34:24 AM PDT by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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To: deport
Inbreeding among polygamists along the Arizona-Utah border is producing a caste of severely retarded and deformed children

All you need to do is look at a picture of that head sicko jiffs to know this is the truth. :^)

56 posted on 04/27/2008 10:44:19 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: MizSterious
Unless, of course, it’s just that want to feel like a victim today. Is that what you’re up to?

The question is does both groups wear magic undies??

57 posted on 04/27/2008 10:49:10 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: panaxanax

Here, here Pan, very well said!


58 posted on 04/27/2008 10:49:44 AM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Enosh
Please start with the whole "men become gods" thing to see if you can twist it away from blasphemy.

Just dang!

59 posted on 04/27/2008 10:50:48 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: MizSterious

These women dress as if they are pious and pure and better than anyone else in modern culture, yet they are filled with the worst of the sins against themselves, each other and their own children. This is what such “religion” has always been about - granting power to another person or group of leaders, to declare that you are superior despite your guilt, thus giving them the terrible power to condemn you again. Enslavement.

Commercial prostitution is more honest and less harmful than sex in “sects”.... except for the fact that it, too, will abuse children.

Take away the yards of dull fabric and hair and you have an exclusive brothel calling itself a church.


60 posted on 04/27/2008 11:28:09 AM PDT by ValerieTexas
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