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Phone number in Texas abuse report linked to Colo. woman
Town Hall ^ | 04 23 08 | GEORGE MERRITT

Posted on 04/23/2008 1:01:12 PM PDT by Howdy there

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To: colorcountry

And Wayne is my middle name. :-)

I spent a lot of time trying to make it a little harder for people to use the web to invade my private life.

Of course, with my real name and picture on my column, which is posted on the web, it pretty much is a lost cause.


161 posted on 04/23/2008 7:23:38 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: BlueMoose
My question was this:

Is Rosita Swinton facing charges in connection with this case? Can you give us a legitimate link? One perhaps from a news source?

So did your post in any way show that Rozita Swinton is facing charges?

No.

But thanks for the info.

162 posted on 04/23/2008 7:23:56 PM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Ah....so now I have to go google you.

It sounds so forbidden.


163 posted on 04/23/2008 7:25:06 PM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: colorcountry

“The Texas Rangers told us she was obsessed with the FLDS. They confiscated tons of material on the FLDS (in the search of Swinton’s home). She even gave real addresses and real names of FLDS people.”


164 posted on 04/23/2008 7:38:14 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: BlueMoose
Block said charges have yet to filed against Swinton. Information, evidence and a statement by Swinton will be forward to state and federal prosecutors to determine whether Swinton will be charged criminally, the release said. Two Texas Rangers traveled to Colorado Springs on Wednesday, and met with local law enforcement officers about a possible connection between Swinton and phone calls made "regarding activities" at the YFZ Ranch,

April 18, 2008

165 posted on 04/23/2008 7:40:56 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: BlueMoose

I have seen reports that this woman Rozita Swinton is in fact LDS.

It is all heresay at this point.


166 posted on 04/23/2008 7:42:17 PM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: freeandfreezing
"The phone calls were made from a prepaid cell phone with no available records, according to the affidavit. However, it has been used in other cases linked to Swinton, the document says."

You are still comparing two different conservations. If in the first sentence it states that there was a cell phone with no available records, then how in the world could it be linked to anyone. There were no records. There is only inferences, the nuts phone calls were traced to her, it was a different phone.

The phone with no records are the ones from Sarah, not this ding bat making calls from a traceable phone.

And then "Although Texas officials said they have not found the woman who made the calls,"

This was after they named her a person of interest and nothing more.

167 posted on 04/23/2008 7:42:40 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: killermedic
I don’t think I have seen that! Nor have I been called, referred, or hinted at being.

I questioned the Constitutionality of the raid after about three days.

I've been called a rapist, a molester, and someone who enjoys seeing older men forcing young girls.

The number of brownshirt facists on FR is surprising.

As time passed I began to realize that it was all projection, all those posters are secretly in favor of everything that was going on there, and they realize that this could all be thrown out and the raping a all that stuff can then continue, to their secret satisfaction.

168 posted on 04/23/2008 7:42:58 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: BlueMoose

You still have not provided a link. Do you have one?


169 posted on 04/23/2008 7:43:21 PM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: BlueMoose

The FLDS has denied that any abuse takes place at the ranch.

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The woman identifying herself as Sarah Barlow also called a battered women’s shelter in Snohomish County, Washington, using another phone number, the affidavit says.

That phone number was traced to Swinton’s address, the affidavit says.

On April 10, the woman called the Washington shelter again and was put on the line with a Texas deputy. She said she felt that she would be punished for the trouble she had caused, was worried that her baby might be taken away and was angry with a woman she had contacted March 29 for prompting the raid by law enforcement.

During that conversation, the affidavit says, the woman used terminology common to the FLDS, referring to her “sister wives,” for instance.

The phone number used in the Washington call was traced to the Colorado Springs apartment where Swinton lives, the affidavit says. The number was also used to call a Utah organization for women escaping polygamy and an abuse counseling center in Fort Myers, Florida, phone records showed.

Swinton pleaded guilty to a charge of false reporting in June 2007 and was under a 12-month deferred sentence, the affidavit says.

At a custody hearing last week, a Texas judge ruled that the state will temporarily retain custody of the 437 children removed in the raid.

Meanwhile, on Tuesday evening, laboratory workers at San Angelo Coliseum completed taking DNA samples from mothers and children, said Janice Rolfe, a spokeswoman for the state attorney general’s office.

She did not say how many samples were taken.


170 posted on 04/23/2008 7:47:22 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: colorcountry

I do that from time to time. I did it just now. It’s not that interesting because my local paper just switched internet servers and every column from before March is gone (which makes me pretty upset because they refused to give me permission to post my own stuff and now they lost it).

Anyway, I’m glad I looked, because google has been hard at work bringing online the old usenet groups, and I now can see lots of my old posts from long ago (I was a frequent commenter in sci.skeptic).

Those were the days. I used to work for IBM and we had an internal internet in the 80s with our own forums.


171 posted on 04/23/2008 7:47:22 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: BlueMoose

SAN ANGELO, Texas — State and federal prosecutors will be asked to screen evidence gathered against a Colorado woman now dubbed a “person of interest” in the investigation into a series of calls that triggered the massive raid on the Fundamentalist LDS Church’s YFZ Ranch.
Rozita Swinton, 33, gave a statement to Texas Rangers, who also seized evidence from her Colorado Springs apartment. While authorities would not say specifically what was in Swinton’s home, the Texas Department of Public Safety said in a statement issued late Friday that the officers found “several items that indicated a possible connection between Swinton and calls regarding the FLDS compounds in Colorado City, Ariz., and Eldorado, Texas.”

Texas DPS officials said the items will be sent to crime labs for analysis.

Anti-polygamy activist Flora Jessop said she recorded hours of phone calls between herself and a 16-year-old girl named “Sarah,” who claimed to be pregnant and in an abusive plural marriage to an older man. Jessop told the Deseret News she got the first call on March 30 — a day after a family crisis shelter first received a similar call.

The call to the family crisis center triggered the raid on the YFZ Ranch, where 416 children were taken into state protective custody. The man named in the phone calls, Dale Barlow, was questioned in Utah by Texas Rangers and has yet to be arrested.


172 posted on 04/23/2008 7:52:05 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Which would raise the question as to why, if Sarah is real, she used a cell phone which previously had been involved in FALSE accusations in another state. How did Sarah get that cell phone?

If you read the statement you will see it says that the calls made from Sarah, were made on a prepaid untracabe phone.

The calls made by Swinton were made on a tracable phone. It says the woman called texas and talked to a deputy after the raid started because she thought her call:

" On April 10, the woman called the Washington shelter again and was put on the line with a Texas deputy. She said she felt that she would be punished for the trouble she had caused, was worried that her baby might be taken away and was angry with a woman she had contacted March 29 for prompting the raid by law enforcement", other tracable calls were"The phone number used in the Washington call was traced to the Colorado Springs apartment where Swinton lives, the affidavit says. The number was also used to call a Utah organization for women escaping polygamy and an abuse counseling center in Fort Myers, Florida, phone records showed" All from the same traceable phone.

173 posted on 04/23/2008 7:56:10 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: colorcountry

Do you have GOOGLE ?


174 posted on 04/23/2008 7:58:43 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: Howdy there
This calls for a do-over.

Next time everybody can be incinerated by the BATFE.

175 posted on 04/23/2008 7:59:31 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: colorcountry
This is very interesting. As you may know, I've been expressing a somewhat contrarian view in these FLDS threads. Some have questioned why.

Well, when I went googling my name, I found some old stuff I posted in sci.skeptic. Some of that was arguments with people who called religion dangerous, and wanted to consider it child abuse. I've mentioned that here before, and it was funny that I've now found some of those threads, like This one

I remembered having these conversations, but couldn't remember where I was having them. Now I know.

176 posted on 04/23/2008 8:02:16 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Thanks for your courteous reply, apology certainly accepted. I had no intention of causing an insult to LDS. This subject is difficult enough to discuss, without going out of my way to set up animosity.

Again, just to be clear, I will use FLDS.


177 posted on 04/23/2008 8:09:43 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Don't just do something! Stand there!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
It is a rational conclusion though that the phone was either used by Swinton, or by someone who was working with Swinton.

Forgot to address that little bit. It never happened and it is not a reasonable are rational conclusion. The Texas LEO's said it was an untraceable prepaid phone. Even if it was untraceabe in that it did not have a registered user, the leo's know where the phone was bought, and it still left a call trail. The LEO"S know what cell tower the phone calls originated from. If it had been a tower where the ding bat lived she would be much more than a person of interest and the LEO's would not have moved on.

178 posted on 04/23/2008 8:12:18 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: org.whodat

I read the statement, and it clearly said that the untraceable phone was linked to the previous case involving Swinton.

There’s a difference between “untraceable” and “unidentifiable”.

They apparently can’t find where the phone was used, but CAN say that the same phone was used in both cases.

So we know that Swinton made calls in both cases, and we know the phone that is tied to the “Sarah” calls was used IN BOTH CASES.

The two most likely explanations are that “Sarah” was somehow involved in the previous case where Swinton was involved, or that it was Swinton using that phone.

There are other possiblities that are much less likely.


179 posted on 04/23/2008 8:13:23 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Here is one column saved for you by none other than FreeRepublic.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1523610/posts


180 posted on 04/23/2008 8:15:33 PM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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