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Gates says Air Force not doing enough in Iraq war effort
AP ^ | April 21 , 2008 2 hours ago | AP

Posted on 04/21/2008 10:55:00 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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1 posted on 04/21/2008 10:55:01 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: NormsRevenge; elhombrelibre; Allegra; SandRat; tobyhill; G8 Diplomat; Dog; Cap Huff; ...

Now this is gonna be interesting.


2 posted on 04/21/2008 10:56:02 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Give the Air Force a mission or two in Iran. That’ll do wonders in Iraq and Afghanistan.


3 posted on 04/21/2008 10:58:17 AM PDT by SolidWood
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Gee...maybe its because there are only a handful of those assets left.


4 posted on 04/21/2008 10:58:50 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Those of us in the US Army never had a problem with the Chair Force. Whenever we had a mission to run they were always happy to give us a ride. They also serve the best box lunches.


5 posted on 04/21/2008 10:58:55 AM PDT by infantrywhooah
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is a perfect example why Clinton or Obama shouldn’t be President of the U.S. The military, in general, would not trust them. They wouldn’t respond to anything they wanted to do. There’s a lot the military can do to thwart a direct order from the President if they don’t trust the person or have little or no respect for them. Would you go into a battle, like Somalia, under another Clinton?


6 posted on 04/21/2008 10:59:36 AM PDT by RC2
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To: SolidWood
Right and don't bother with surveillance craft,...send the big stuff.
7 posted on 04/21/2008 10:59:43 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well whos responsibility is it to unleash the dogs of war???


8 posted on 04/21/2008 11:02:22 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’m puzzled by this very public smackdown of one of the service branches.

This is a very serious criticism, and it is unusual for it to be levelled on the USAF’s home turf in such a public fashion.

There must be steam coming out of certain offices in the Pentagon right about now.


9 posted on 04/21/2008 11:08:13 AM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve. And they are about to get it--in spades.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Real pilots” resent having to fly the toys. They can’t log time in their little book to qualify for those cushy airline jobs.

Plus, it is a real pain to get decent tee-times in Iraq-a-stan, and good caddies are real hard to find.


10 posted on 04/21/2008 11:09:00 AM PDT by wrench
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Funny, the AF has been on war footing over Iraq since 1991. Enforcing all those no fly zones over the years has worn out our fleet.


11 posted on 04/21/2008 11:10:25 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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“...they were always happy to give us a ride.”

Tell that to the Special Ops boys down at Hurlburt, son. They’ll have your a$$ for breakfast!

Militant


12 posted on 04/21/2008 11:15:24 AM PDT by militant2 ("From time to time, the tree of Liberty must be nourished with the blood of tyrants!")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Gosh, did he really have to go to the press with this? I mean couldn’t he just go to the Secretary of the Air Force and find out what more they can do. I am not in the Air Force but this seems piss poor to me. I would be pretty upset if he did this to the Navy.


13 posted on 04/21/2008 11:20:59 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: militant2

You think so? I would like to see how they stack up to me and the rest of my Ranger buddies, the scrolled ones especially (which I am not, unfortunately)


14 posted on 04/21/2008 11:21:55 AM PDT by infantrywhooah
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To: infantrywhooah

Hey now if the Army did not screw up this war, the Air Force would not be needed. /sarc. Just a return on your post. lol.


15 posted on 04/21/2008 11:23:26 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: BurbankKarl

Let’s not engage in revisionist history, Buckwheat. You people weren’t flying those missions all by your lonesome.


16 posted on 04/21/2008 11:24:02 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Any chance this was a pre-emptive smackdown against another election-year campaign on Capitol Hill by the USAF for more F-22s?


17 posted on 04/21/2008 11:24:15 AM PDT by paddles
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Related Thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2004712/posts

18 posted on 04/21/2008 11:25:02 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

First you are going to have to get the pilots out of the bars and off the golf courses. If you want them to fight tell them that a golf course is in danger, they will defend it to the very end. I have two very close friends (AF pilots) that recently retired and both have a handicap in the low single digits.


19 posted on 04/21/2008 11:26:01 AM PDT by engrpat
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To: infantrywhooah

Not to rag on the Air Force...but I know a young kid in the Air Force, and I saw him one morning with several of his Air Force buddies...not one of them could have been over 120 lbs soaking wet.

Now, on the other hand, the Marines I come across...any one of them could snap in half a handful of the Air Force guys with one hand.


20 posted on 04/21/2008 11:28:53 AM PDT by Spouting Horn (Terrorism is a tactic. Our battle should be waged against the Shariah and Jihad.)
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