At Waco, the only way to save those children was to burn them...
Posted on 04/06/2008 5:27:22 AM PDT by SkyPilot
You know, I was thinking- this is the perfect opportunity for Mitt Romney to display his statesmanship and negotiate a peaceful end to this.
> Do you think Islamberg is the next cult compound raided?
Lord, I hope so. If it is, we can only hope for no survivors.
And just WHO would that be?
No, they would be in the third day of an armed stand off, with tanks and APCs moving in, loud and offensive music and noise being blasted at them, and threats by hundreds of ATF in full flack gear getting ready to shoot, smoke, and grenade their way in.
But you were close enough...!
Interesting that you point that out. In my brief time as a Mormon, I heard that reasoning used regularly to defend the formerly practice teaching of polygamy. While the church disavowed the practice, it was still somewhat defended as "biblical".
Of course, to use the Old Testament as a defense of the practice completely ignores the New Testament and Christ's own definition of adultery, as well as the qualifications of those over the church found in Ephesians.
Well said. Everyone is probably better off looking the other way when a streetwise 15 year old has sex with her 18 y/o boyfriend, but these girls have no real choice or options, they can’t exactly say, “No, I’d rather wait until I’m 25 and finish college”, or “No, but it you were less than 3 times my age, I’d date you.”.
They’re stuffed inside this polygamist cult hideout for a reason, and it’s not for their developmental benefit. They’re brainwashed into the lifestyle and escape is made very difficult.
I’d support raiding the place for a parking ticket.
“What? No flammable tear gas? No machine gunning people attempting to flee the flames?”
Yea, and no poring gasoline down the halls of their own compound.
What about post #20 that seems to indicate that girls down to 14 can legally marry with parental permission...?
John Taylor, who took at 16 year old woman to be his bride at the age of 77, said the following:
STATEMENT OF PRESIDENT JOHN TAYLOR
As taken from the Salt Lake Tribune of date,
January 6, 1880
“The people of the rest of the country are our enemies. They do not understand us, we do not understand them. We should pray for them, but we MUST NOT YIELD to them. They think we are foolish, and we think they are foolish; they think we are a pack of rascals, but we have the best of them, for we know they are a pack of rascals. We believe in honesty, morality and purity, in freedom and loyalty to our country; but when they enact TYRANNICAL LAWS, forbidding us the free exercise of our religion, we cannot submit. God is greater than the United States. And when the Government conflicts with Heaven, we will be ranged under the banner of HEAVEN and AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT. The United States says we cannot marry more than one wife. GOD SAYS DIFFERENT. We had no hand in the business; Joseph Smith had no hand in it. Brigham Young had no hand in it. I had no hand in it. It was all the work of God, and HIS LAWS MUST BE OBEYED. If the United States says different the Saints cannot obey it. We do not want to rebel against the United States. Rebellion is not on the program but we will worship God according to the dictates of our own conscience. We want to be friendly with the United States, if the Government will let us; BUT NOT ONE JOT NOR TITTLE of our rights will we give up to purchase it. I would like the good God of heaven to prevent them from making laws that we CANNOT KEEP; but when adulterers and libertines pass a law forbidding polygamy the Saints CANNOT OBEY IT. Polygamy is a divine institution. It has been handed down direct from God. The United States CANNOT ABOLISH IT. No nation on earth can prevent it, NOR ALL THE NATIONS OF THE EARTH COMBINED. I DEFY THE UNITED STATES. I will obey God. These are my sentiments, and all of you who sympathize with me in this position raise your right hands. All hands went up sustaining his position.”
They disavow but at the same time condone and defend.
“It’s wrong but it’s really not wrong” um, okaaaaaay!
Me too. LOL
At Waco, the only way to save those children was to burn them...
“Really than stop distorting my faith, viper!”
The truth is not distortion. If you don’t like to hear the truth about your faith then don’t come on the threads that reveal these truths.
“Why the selective outrage?”
The same place as the evidence. You find proof of any of that taking place in any specific place in an organized way like this, and the same kind of raid will happen. No double standard, no “white Christian” bias, no “selective outrage”.
After four years of quietly building a polygamous enclave in west Texas, the fundamentalist FLDS sect has been sundered by a major state raid that by Saturday had brought out 183 boys, girls and women for questioning about their well-being.
http://www.sltrib.com/ci_8823648
Here we go again.
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