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BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: Authorities enter Eldorado-area temple (Fundamentalist LDS cult)
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| 5 April 08
| Paul A. Anthony
Posted on 04/06/2008 5:27:22 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: wagglebee
To: Degaston
I commend you on your honest posts, it is certainly refreshing to see a Mormon acknowledge that ANY time sinful men are involved, there will be some sinful events. Your humility in the face of powerful reasons to remain secretive is a testament to your devotion to your Church and your LDS brothers and sisters.
1,802
posted on
04/09/2008 4:04:40 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: conservativegramma
Suggest you contact Degaston, finally an honest Mormon, Link. At least he's capable of acknowledging that the LDS is engaged in a massive deception campaign unlike SOME PEOPLE I could name...........
My prayers are with him in this trial and that he will be able to find what he is looking for.
I know this is The Church of Jesus Christ of The Latter Day Saints on earth today.
1,803
posted on
04/09/2008 4:04:51 PM PDT
by
restornu
( Pandora's box is being unleashed)
To: CindyDawg
1,804
posted on
04/09/2008 4:06:47 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: wagglebee
1,805
posted on
04/09/2008 4:07:38 PM PDT
by
greyfoxx39
(New apologist mantra..and defense.."love the POLYGAMY sin" but hate the sinner.")
To: wagglebee
Huh. Weren’t their lawyers supposed to go to court today?
To: Degaston
1,807
posted on
04/09/2008 4:09:53 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: Degaston
Whether or not I'm a High Priest in the eyes of God is certainly a debatable issue. But in the eyes of the LDS church I'm considered a High Priest. However I'm guessing that if certain LDS leaders were to read this thread they might decide to have me excommunicated for "apostasy". Excommunication has proven to be one of the church's ways of silencing individuals who won't coverup secret abominable actions of church leaders. For example, when Joseph Smith took young girls as plural wives (just as was happening at the YFZ ranch near El Dorado, Texas) it was technically against the laws of Illinois, against the Doctrine and Covenants and against the Book of Mormon. Well he plagiarized the wordings/symbols/rituals of some Masonic ceremonies to create a ceremony called the Endowment that setup a secretive circle of LDS members who would be "ready" to accept the new and everlasting covenant of eternal plural marriage without worry over whether or not they'd think about whether or not what they're doing was against the laws of the land and against the laws of the church's scriptures. Wow. You just keep amazing me with your honesty, your candor, and your truthfulness.
Applause to you again.
1,808
posted on
04/09/2008 4:09:54 PM PDT
by
SkyPilot
("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
To: Godzilla; Jim Robinson
Jim Rob, probably dreads the hard drive and band width we've chewed up in the past with each other LOL I know he probably does - and I appreciate Jim for allowing us to debate here and for allowing this thread.
Jim is high on my list of men I most admire.
I remember back in 2002 or so, there was a thread that got into religion. There was a Freeper who was a particular "One Note Johnny. His Freeper name was something like "Lost_Tribe" or something. His entire spiel was that there was a Jewish lost tribe that moved to Ireland, and the Celts were all Jews.
OK. Whatever.
But he pasted his little theory into EVERY thread. Jim put up with him for a long time.
When one thread went on forever, Jim pulled it and banned "Lost_Tribe."
I read Jim's curt reason why the thread was pulled, and he wrote:
Enough of this BS.
I laughed until I cried.
1,809
posted on
04/09/2008 4:16:46 PM PDT
by
SkyPilot
("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
To: CindyDawg
1,810
posted on
04/09/2008 4:17:01 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: restornu; Degaston; greyfoxx39; Elsie; MHGinTN
My prayers are with him in this trial and that he will be able to find what he is looking for. I know this is The Church of Jesus Christ of The Latter Day Saints on earth today. Don't try to crawl into Degaston's courage, honesty, and clarity restornu.
That belongs to him. He earned it on this thread.
You didn't.
1,811
posted on
04/09/2008 4:20:02 PM PDT
by
SkyPilot
("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
To: SkyPilot; Degaston; Elsie; colorcountry
Don't try to crawl into Degaston's courage, honesty, and clarity restornu.
That belongs to him. He earned it on this thread.
You didn't. Well said and amen!
1,812
posted on
04/09/2008 4:24:00 PM PDT
by
greyfoxx39
(New apologist mantra..and defense.."love the POLYGAMY sin" but hate the sinner.")
To: greyfoxx39; SkyPilot; Degaston; Elsie; colorcountry
Don't try to crawl into Degaston's courage, honesty, and clarity restornu. That belongs to him. He earned it on this thread. You didn't.
Well said and amen!
I'll second that!
1,813
posted on
04/09/2008 4:31:33 PM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: Degaston
My response: I wasnt aware of this issue BEFORE I wrote my last big tithing check to the LDS church. But since I became aware of this issue they have only received a token small payment from me and they only got that payment because my wife insisted that we give them some money because she believed that the LDS churchs Council on the Disposition of Tithes and Offerings was Gods only authorized financial comptroller organization on earth. Frankly I think its time for the top leadership to acknowledge the truth on this issue and to stop sending out missionaries who they know will tell lies about the churchs polygamy history because they will be clueless and under tremendous pressure to find people to get baptized and assimilated into Mormonism. Whoa........The Truth is penetrating.
Thanks to God.........
To: SkyPilot; Jim Robinson
I know he probably does - and I appreciate Jim for allowing us to debate here and for allowing this thread. Well, it takes space some times to respond to those shot-gun type arguements, as well as to pick them apart properly. I appreciate his work too for FR.
1,815
posted on
04/09/2008 4:33:48 PM PDT
by
Godzilla
(The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.)
To: restornu
According to who!How about following GOD, instead of a man...for a change...........
To: najida; metmom
The voice of reason. A beacon at night.
To: Degaston
Your candid and honest approach is much appreciated.
1,818
posted on
04/09/2008 5:04:30 PM PDT
by
Utah Binger
(Southern Utah, where the world comes to see America!)
To: Elsie
"I am not trying to change ANY Mormon; but any WEAK Christians that may be swayed by their lies." How about trying to convert open border advocates to support the rule of law and support the building of a border fence?
How about trying to convince anyone swayed by the lies of Tom Delay from giving any more money to him or his lying organizations?
How about trying to convince supposed supporters of free markets, that markets aren't free if the rules are drafted by lobbyists and those they bribe in congress and the White House?
To: Colofornian; metmom; MHGinTN
Sorry Colo, I looked it up.
Sarah gave Hagar to Abram to be his WIFE! And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife. And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived: and when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress was despised in her eyes. (Genesis 16:3-4 KJV)
The Hebrew word for "WIFE" in that verse is the same word used in the following verses:
And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed. (Genesis 2:23-25 KJV)
Therefore it is clear that Abram took Hagar to be his WIFE, in the same manner that Adam took Eve to be his wife. That would make Abram a polygamist.
1,820
posted on
04/09/2008 5:48:33 PM PDT
by
P-Marlowe
(LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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