The School Crotch Inspector - Fighting the Advil menace, one strip search at a time

Reason ^ | April 2, 2008 | Jacob Sullum

[Mojave]

I do what a single standard in place of local laws

You and Joe Stalin.

[AndyJackson]

You're confused. The 14th Amendment applies to Arizona regardless of the Arizona Constitution (1910).

Your argument is moot. The Arizona Constitution of 1910 adopted the Federal Constitution as the supreme law of the land, and therefore any other arguments are irrelevant.

[AndyJackson]

Nice elision of the important part of the statement. You are morally and intellectually corrupt.

Only a dirty minded statist such as yourself could equate the desire for constraints on federal, state and local powers and the protection of individual liberties with the mindset of a Joe Stalin, who recognized no rights for individuals and no constraints on state power whatsoever.

[Trailerpark Badass]

Myself and others have asked for YOUR opinion on whether the strip search was justified. Answer that first!

Actually, I wanted to know what age he feels is appropriate to give consent to strip in front of adults. Obviously, he thinks it is under the age of 13, because he thinks this girl gave informed consent to strip, and was not coerced.

[AndyJackson]

Congratulations. You have now reached a readership of 8,944, who know about your dirty minded efforts to expand the power of the state to strip search girls in search of Advil.

My personal goal is now to get to 10,000.

[Mojave]

What a cop out!

You want a national hegemony. I don't.

[Mojave]

You have now reached a readership of 8,944

That and a quarter...

[beltfed308]

You want a national hegemony. I don't.

It's perfectly ok Roscoe to say you cannot form your own opinion. Most of us already know that from your intellectual dishonesty.

[AndyJackson]

That and a quarter...

will perhaps embarrass a Bush appointed Princetonian / Yalie judge that he has made an awful botch of a case, and the whole world now knows about it. Next time he will think more carefully about the consequences of his opinions and whether they are soundly grounded in law. He ought to have known better.

Fortunately, Alex Kozinski is presiding judge, and might be making some progress in curbing the historical pattern of excess for which this Circuit has become a national laughing stock.

[AndyJackson]

BTW I would point out that according to his biography, The Hon. Richard Clifton was appointed to the 9th circuit COA out of private practice in 2002. He had no previous bench experience and would not appear to have had a particularly distinguished practice from what I can see. Sounds like a typical GWB appointee made in the dark of the night. Right schools, politically safe, and intellectually underwhelming.

[AndyJackson]

9,010 views. Just 990 posts and I will retire from kicking your forked tail around this particular post. I will, however, keep a watch elsewhere.

[driftdiver]

“Not based on statements or actions by school staff.”

So you’re proposing the use of statements by the perpetrators of the crime to explain and justify the behavior of the victim. Is that what passes for lawyering in liberal fantasy land?

[driftdiver]

metmom would be/is a great student. IMO she makes a poor subject though.

[driftdiver]

A few years ago some Dim proposed a bill that was supposed to combat “violence” in school. The bill proposed that when a student was involved in any kind of conflict which resulted in violence the principal would be given broad powers. He could require the parents to provide a list of any and all weapons the student had access to or were stored in the home. This specifically included baseball bats and butter knives in addition to other items.

If the parents refused to provide the list they would be committing a felony. Once the list was provided the principal could dictate how those ‘weapons’ would be stored. Once again it was a felony for the parents to fail to comply.

All of this authority given to principals under this bill. thank goodness it never passed but it shows how sick these people really are.

[AndyJackson]

This specifically included baseball bats and butter knives in addition to other items.

Do folks realize how far this strays from anything actually having to do with education? My son attended a Catholic school. The disciplinary powers of the teachers was broad and reaching, extending to demerits, Saturday work in the grounds and fields, extra homework, and preemptory visits to the headmaster. Searches beyond cleaning up messy lockers were never conducted, yet these powers were sufficient to keep kids enough in line that the teachers could focus on their primary job of English and Math and Latin, which the students were forced to take 4 years of.

The problem is not that the schools lack sufficient disciplinary powers, but they fail to engage the students by teaching thereby relieving themselves of the necessity of the students to act out their shear and utter boredom.

[driftdiver]

“The problem is not that the schools lack sufficient disciplinary powers, but they fail to engage the students by teaching thereby relieving themselves of the necessity of the students to act out their shear and utter boredom. “

I totally agree. Its not money or lack of teachers. Its the pure socialist agenda that is focused on indoctrination instead of education.

[Mojave]

you cannot form your own opinion

You want to impose your will on everyone. I don't.

[Mojave]

embarrass a Bush appointed Princetonian

I know. You like Clinton, his appointee and the ACLU.

[Mojave]

I will retire from kicking your forked tail

At least all your fantasies aren't about child molestation.

[Mojave]

So you’re proposing the use of statements by the perpetrators of the crime

"Redding denied bringing pills to school, denied distributing pills to her classmates, and told Wilson that she did not mind being searched."

Redding is the student.