Where's the Sunshine and Hope?
Obama can't brush this off with "guilt by association."
Barack Obama and Pastor Wright: Far More Than Guilt by Association
Tell Us Which Pastor Wright Sermons You Agree With, Senator
Posted on 03/14/2008 1:51:14 PM PDT by pissant
I didn’t hear him say any of that. Honest, I was shocked. Reverend Wright always seemed like such a man of Jesus. He must have forgotten his medication on those two days. No, I don’t know how all his other sermons have mysteriously disappeared. You would have to ask the church. I reject categorically anything that you might find cached on the net. My new pastor is just fine, and the 8,000 members of Trinity who wildly cheered Reverend Wright when he made these disparaging comments cannot be blamed. We are a pillar of the community. Change you can believe in.
Barack Obama's pastor's words echo through campaign
Los Angeles Times ^ | March 14, 2008 | Scott Martelle
The Rev. Jeremiah Wright may have stepped down as pastor at Barack Obama's church in Chicago, but his sermons are still echoing through the presidential campaign -- some rather vile ones, as captured in a video that recently made its way to YouTube.
As our friends at The Swamp reported a little while ago, Obama's campaign is trying to put some more distance between the senator and the preacher, but given the focus on race and gender this week, expect this to simmer for a while.
"It just came to me within the past few weeks, ya'll, why so many folk are hating on Barack Obama," Wright said in the video of a Christmas sermon at Trinity United Church of Christ. "He doesn’t fit the model. He ain't white. He ain't rich and he ain't privileged. Hillary (Clinton) fits the mold."
Thank you, kindly. I’ve never regretted a moment of it. Learning the Liturgy of the Hours has been a true blessing. Got my own for Christmas. Such ancient prayers, such extraordinary range. My understanding is some of the disciples prayed the same Psalms at the same hours of the day. I love it.
That is so untrue. I have never pulled so much for a guy to be all he should be — even if I don't agree with his politics. I don't know who's mold the Reverend thinks Hillary fits, but she certainly doesn't fit mine, either.
Major Garett on it....,,,
Good. the more the better.
Another thing that has me confused is that this so called “Reverend” said that Barak, who didnt fit the mold, was a poor boy born to a single mother.
It is my understanding that his mother was very well off, typical college liberal white guilt trip sent her into the arms of third world colored men.
Who really raised “Barry”, it was the very rich white parents of this woman, so “Barry” has been around money all his life.
I was stationed at Schofield Barracks during part of my service with the US Army, I know full well what The Punahou School is and who it is for. Poor kids dont go there, so obviously “Barry” was a child of privilege after all.
While I would believe that Obama joined this church to gain street cred in Chicago, ultimately the man is the Muzzchurian Candidate. The Islamic world cannot wait for this man to be elected President, there is a reason, and peace sure isnt it.
The WSJ has one of Wright’s hate America, racist sermons listed on line.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1985856/posts
Wright and Obama: It Only Gets Worse
Confederate Yankee ^ | March 14, 2008 | Staff
Posted on 03/14/2008 3:15:38 PM PDT by jdm
The Wall Street Journal has published yet another damning sermon from Barack Obama’s retiring minister of two decades, Jeremiah Wright.
The displaced anger, bigotry, and hatred displayed is chilling:
“We’ve got more black men in prison than there are in college,” he began. “Racism is alive and well. Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run. No black man will ever be considered for president, no matter how hard you run Jesse [Jackson] and no black woman can ever be considered for anything outside what she can give with her body.”
Mr. Wright thundered on: “America is still the No. 1 killer in the world. . . . We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns, and the training of professional killers . . . We bombed Cambodia, Iraq and Nicaragua, killing women and children while trying to get public opinion turned against Castro and Ghadhafi . . . We put [Nelson] Mandela in prison and supported apartheid the whole 27 years he was there. We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.”
His voice rising, Mr. Wright said, “We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic. . . . We care nothing about human life if the end justifies the means. . . .”
Concluding, Mr. Wright said: “We started the AIDS virus . . . We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty. . . .”
As the story of Wright’s forceful bigotry finally forced it’s way into the mainstream media yesterday at ABC News with the story Obama’s Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11, the people Barack Obama has chosen to surround himself with has come under sharp focus.
From a self-isolated, self-pitying wife, to a bombastic, bigoted minister, to an unreformed terrorist, Barack Obama has surrounded himself with very questionable ideological company, associations from which he has no defense. He wasn’t forced to chose to spend time with this cadre of believers on the radical fringe, he embraced them willingly.
Predictably, as the media has come to focus on Obama’s two-decade relationship with Wright, Obama supporters have been quick to attempt to minimize the damage. Unable to do it with a forceful denunciation of Wright’s bigotry by Obama (Obama has only uttered the lamest of excuses), they have instead attempted to tar Republican candidate John McCain as being equally bad, for the support he has garnered from controversial evangelists Rod Parsley and John Hagee.
For those of you unfamiliar with these men, Parsley’s most famous controversial statements include calling Islam a “false religion” that must be destroyed, opposition same-sex marriage, partial-birth abortion, hate-crimes legislation, and the separation of church and state. Hagee has been ripped an an anti-Catholic bigot, stated that Hurricane Katrina was an act of God against New Orleans for the city’s “level of sin,” and for claiming that the Qur’an has “a scriptural mandate to kill Christians and Jews.”
There, of course, is a difference between John McCain’s political endorsements by Parsley and Hagee, and Barack Obama’s 20 years of willfully absorbing Wright’s hatred, a toxicity to which he has willfully exposed family.
I addressed this attempt to equivilate Obama and McCain in a comment to the ABC News blog story Obama camp: ‘Deplores divisive statements’, which featured yet another inflammatory speech by Wright.
My comment read:
I see that some are already attempting to trot out a comparative argument, that Wright’s offensive, bigoted, and paranoid rants are somehow lessened by invoking John McCain’s support from John Hagee and Rod Parsley, two prominent evangelists who have also made provocative statements.
But here is the huge gaping difference between these attempts: Barack Obama has spent the better part of the past 20 years of his life listening to, absorbing, and yes, agreeing with Wright’s sermons. If he did not agree with the bulk of those sermons, he would have of course left Trinity for another church—finding a church in Chicago that closely fits your own personal beliefs is not at all difficult, and Obama obviously agrees with Wright far more than he disagrees.
That Obama has spent 20 years listening to Wright, thought enough of him to use one of those sermons as the title of his book, “The Audacity of Hope,” that he was married by Wright, had both of his children baptized by Wright and brought up in this church, listening to these paranoid and racist rants that differ little in substance from the words of a much more famous racist, Louis Farakkan, means that Obama AGREES with Wright far more often than he disagrees with him.
From that, what are we to make of Obama? Actions, indeed, do speak louder than flaccid conciliatory words that have only just now been uttered.
I say again the obvious: no American would spend 20 years listening to a minister with which he vehemently disagreed.
McCain, by comparison, is guilty of pandering to Haggee and Parsley because of the (unfortunate) influence they have over a powerful voting demographic.
I can find scant evidence that McCain has sat though one sermon from Hagee or Parsley, much less 20 years of them.
Which is worse?
The politician that panders for votes, or the man who has listened to and internalized anti-American, anti-Jewish, and anti-white messages for 20 years before ever once publicly disagreeing with them, and who is raising his children in this same toxic environment?
Not only am I certain Barack Obama is unfit to run this nation, I now question his ability to raise his own children, for the hatred he has willingly exposed them to since their births.
Yes, I went there. Read again Wright’s rant in the WSJ article featured above, or some of his other hate speech (for that is what it is), and try to explain to me that a good parent exposes his children to an environment that exudes such naked anger, resentment, defeatism, and conspiratorial paranoia.
Perhaps some of you are comfortable having your children raised in such an environment, but I am not, and I do not think that someone who willingly exposes himself and his family to internalizing such vitriol for 20 years is the kind of person we need or want to lead this nation.
Right and just think if Wright would say what he said on the pulpit, just think what he would say in private to Obama and others.
Happy Easter!
Two of these things have nothing to do with Osama Hussein Obama. He is not the ancestor of slaves (maybe slavers), he knows nothing of segregation but he has been taught racism by his "pastor".
Math Hurts.
20 years x 50 sundays = 1000 SUNDAYS!
Almost 3 years of listening to this racist America Hating Scum.
Obama either has a very very slow learning curve ....apparently it takes him 20 years to realize screaming hate.
AND lets not forget that obsama is still in favor of killing babies AFTER they are born. He is Pro Partial Birth Abortion.
Those same DVDs that show Rev. Wright preaching hate also have clips of those people in the audience at the time.
If Obama is seen on any of those, his campaign is over.
What you said is true (Mr. Obama's ancestors did not endure the bondage of slavery in the United States); however the main point which I keep trying to make on this issue is:
'have you ever heard of a 'church' with such a 'creed' as this tucc.org church'??
This is blasphemy.
It is true that we are all sinners, with twisted minds, and that there are no perfect churches -- but the narrow focus of this 'church' seems to be racial division and racial supremacy.
All of us are descended from those that came off of the Ark in the not so distant past, and the raison d'etre for any Church of Christ is to point people towards Christ. All people. We are to rejoice when anyone comes to Christ, and to mourn anyone who rejects our Saviour.
I see nothing like this message in this 'about us' posting by the tucc church. They exist to serve only those with a 'healthy' amount of melanin in their skin - and to reject those that are melanin challenged...
Although there are a multitude of reasons to reject Obama as President (socialism; uncommon 'zeal' for abortion and infanticide; no experience; naivete with respect to foreign policy; etc) - I still find his membership in this church to be most odious.
Hmmmmm.... just try to imagine the media reaction to a presidential candidate whose church spewed similar stuff about a whites-only Eurocentric church.
DVD of Your pastor screaming anti-American rants - $2.50
Having to buy a new suit to defend against stupid associations on every news channel in the country - $400
Having the nation’s first (real) Black candidate destroyed by his own reverse racism - Priceless
If Barak Obama hadn’t allowed himself to buy into the stupid seperatist rhetoric of a fringe group of whitey haters, he may have become president. He has now, effectively, snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Even if he becomes the nominee, this will sink him.
Unfortuantely, the media will say he lost because he’s black, and miss the entire point. American is ready for a President who happens to be black, but not a black man who finds it hard to be an American.
Hmmmmm.... just try to imagine the media reaction to a presidential candidate whose church spewed similar stuff about a whites-only Eurocentric church.
Exactly so. I went through the exercise and took the tucc's 'About Us' page and substituted the word 'white' for 'black', and 'Europe/European' for 'Africa/African'.
It reads like the invitation to some 'Aryan Identity' church... I.e., One of those freakazoid 'churches' that preach 'white superiority' and consist of less than 10 members and are rightfully scorned by the community. No one could run for any office in America if they were known to have a membership is such an organization. And here we have a parallel universe church in Chicago. It has thousands of members -- and no one blinks an eye that a member of 20 years has been elected to a high office in government (and is running for President!)...
I feel like the Brits at Yorktown playing, 'The World Turned Upside Down'... Churches like this should not exist. Call them 'racial' clubs or societies, but don't blaspheme the name of the LORD by pretending that they are following HIS way...
We attend a very small parish, very traditional, very old fashioned. I can't imagine ever wanting to leave it — we drag our feet just leaving Mass. Priests are in their 70s, gentle, kind and all you could ask for in your pastor — also so well educated — yet they keep it down to earth and simple. A blessing to be sure. I hope they live forever. Okay, I know they'll live forever, but I hope they can pastor the parish until I go home. ;-)
I’m so happy for you...it sounds like a lovely parish! We have a wonderful cantor who has me weeping with every song...hanky in hand, I’m thrilled to be there, too. A blessed Holy Week and Easter to you and your family!
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