Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Where Are the Moderate Muslims?
israelenews ^ | January 25, 2008

Posted on 02/12/2008 3:12:21 AM PST by values

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-32 next last

1 posted on 02/12/2008 3:12:24 AM PST by values
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: values

I thought I saw one in Wal-Mart the other day, but it turned out to be Elvis.


2 posted on 02/12/2008 3:16:15 AM PST by gotribe (I've been disenfranchised by the GOP.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: values
They're NOT... at CNN


3 posted on 02/12/2008 3:17:08 AM PST by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: values
Where Are the Moderate Muslims?

they are stared $h!tless for themselves and their families lives, if they breathe one anti-jihad word......

4 posted on 02/12/2008 3:29:32 AM PST by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Vaquero

that is scared not stared.....sorry.


5 posted on 02/12/2008 3:35:56 AM PST by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: values

In general, the moderate Muslims aren’t really Muslims at all.


6 posted on 02/12/2008 3:49:43 AM PST by Brilliant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gotribe
I cannot suggest a solution for Israel tho I wish them well. They have, in spite of some of their spineless leaders, resisted magnificently and repeatedly.

I think resistance on the basic level is one positive approach. As an American citizen I refuse to be intimidated by muslims. I don't speak code in their presence, I don't mince words. I have pointed out, in muslim's presence, that the reason we obviously non-muslims have to go thru the humiliating TSA process at the airport is because of muslims--not terrorists, not a handful of saudis, muslims--no distinction. I have spoken out when others refer to the peaceful muslims who live in our country--they are not. They harbor terrorists among them and do nothing to comply with the laws of society let alone the law of the land. My daughter, while working in food services at Eastern Michigan University, has refused to wait on muslim males because they think they can point at what they wish to purchase without speaking to her to ask for it, thus diminishing a Christian woman. "Sorry, I don't speak point." Of course, I don't attend any movie which idealizes or glamorizes the islimic cause, or vote for any candidate that is not tough on islime.

These are small steps that can be magnified if we all are conscientious and step up daily.

7 posted on 02/12/2008 4:01:42 AM PST by RushLake (Democrats/MSM have never met a terrorist they didn't like.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: gotribe

He is on the Campaign trail ,His Name is Obama


8 posted on 02/12/2008 4:05:13 AM PST by ballplayer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: values

I have discovered The Great Muslim Moderate here:

http://ronbosoldier.blogspot.com/2006/12/great-moderate-muslim-discovered.html

....after sailing the globe!


9 posted on 02/12/2008 4:13:54 AM PST by thomasjefferson1215
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: values
"Imagine for just a moment that there was a real solution to defeating Islamic extremism once and for all, one that was not only within our grasp, but one that has been proven to work. What you will read is the true account of coming face to face with an Al Qaeda member prior to 9/11 and how his efforts to recruit were thwarted. Imagine for a moment that the so-called extremists could be revealed for who they truly are. Not the messengers of objective truth that they claim to be, but rather the pharisaical hypocrites that they truly are." "In a recent editorial in the New York Times entitled "Islam's Silent Moderates" , Ayaan Hirsi Ali asks the question "Where are the moderates?" as she laments on the silence from the so-called contingent of moderate Muslims around the globe in response to the recent case of the "girl from Qatif". As much as I admire Ayaan Hirsi Ali for her outspoken courage, I'm disappointed that she consistently misses the mark on defining a solution for effectively dealing with Islamic extremism. I'm also disappointed that someone like Ayaan Hirsi Ali fails to see that the issues we face and not so much with "moderation" and "extremism" but rather with what I believe to be the real issue of moderninity."

"In dealing with Islamic extremism, the first thing we need to do is skip through the endless mind-numbing musings on Islamic jurisprudence peddled by a plethora of self-proclaimed Muslim pundits and scholars around the globe, the harsh reality is the there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim. What we do have though is the modern Muslim. The modern muslim versus the anachronism."

"I had first met Hassan many years ago while I was having my lunch at a small restaurant in Singapore on Jalan Pisang (street) called Hajah Maimunah. The restaurant is a bit off the beaten track from Orchard road and so, few tourists will ever visit it, but it serves perhaps the best Indonesian and Malay food in all of Singapore and at lunchtime during the week the restaurant can be quite packed. Hassan, with his tray in hand saw me sitting alone at a table as asked if he could join me. I looked up at this poor sob decked out in his full Islamist regalia complete with the androgynous black eyeliner and turban and nodded my head for him to sit down."

"Typical of many of these living anachronisms who often meander the streets and loiter around the mosques in modern-day Singapore, Hassan epitomized many of these psychically enslaved individuals who are hopelessly and perpetually trapped in some sort of cosmic Manichaean struggle between good and evil, where they find even the simple use of cutlery confounding. Showing his complete and utter disdain for modernity, Hassan sat down and proceeded to stick the fingers of his right hand into his food. Amused and yet disgusted at the same time I watched this individual make a spectacle of himself as well as a mess at the table with his curry-covered hand. Sitting there in my shirt and tie watching Hassan, I almost felt pity and couldn't help but think, not only how comical he looked but how he simply did not fit in with modern society. Attempting to hide my disgust at his table manners and with perhaps a bit of feigned congeniality I reached over and passed Hassan a napkin and asked him politely in Indonesian if he would mind cleaning the mess that he made on the table."

"At this point you're probably thinking that this is quite condescending of me and that perhaps this individual's disdain for cutlery is nothing but a "cultural thing", and in some respects you are correct, but Hassan's disdain for not only cutlery but modernity as well, is equally if not more, founded in, and influenced by his own ethnic and religious chauvinism and the "us versus them" dichotomy that permeates each and every aspect of his life."

"As I look around the restaurant I noticed many other Indonesians and Malays who found no problems adapting to the implements of a modern-day society. Individuals who did not feel threatened by cultural progression, individuals who did not feel compelled to repudiate all aspects of what they perceived to be in any possible way linked to Western civilization, individuals who, above all, were not hopelessly enslaved by the same brutal dualistic worldview that Hassan was. By this time Hassan had finished his meal and then looked over at me and said. "I see you can speak Indonesian".

to be continued...

FROM

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

10 posted on 02/12/2008 4:20:17 AM PST by expatguy ("An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - New & Improved - Now with Search)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: values
I agree, however, we cannot expect Islam to reform in order to more readily accept Western "secularization." The Left in the West have redefined the meaning of culture. Especially in America, it has been the cultural Left that has given us the enlightenment of "if it feels good, do it." It is the Left that drives the destruction of morality, the vital link of religious principles and our Constitution and Laws. It is the Left that hands out condoms, de-funds abstinence education programs and promotes the sexualization of our culture. .It is the Left that is growing Government and asserting that Faith in God is to be purged from all the Government touches. It is the Left.

We must reform America. America is a nation whose founding principles are rooted in the story of Jesus. It is a story the proclaims that Freedom is a Gift from God meant for ALL. All are created equal because All are loved by God, as He loved His own Son. This genetic code of Freedom has been altered by the Left incrementally in the same way a frog in a saucepan is slowly brought to a boil.

"Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just.

Radical Islam is Nebuchanezzar, Islam is the Midianites who were raised up by God against his people. "Why hast thou done this to thine people"? cried Gideon. The answer was that God's people had done evil in his sight. America today is like that. We must restore our founding spirit and principles. Our mission is to be "a shining city upon the hill". . .to proclaim to the world the true root and definition of Freedom. . .except now, the Left has tricked us into thinking that such a thing would violate "the separation of Church and State." Well think again. .. because the quote above is from none other then the "separator" himself. . .Thomas Jefferson.

We have been lulled to sleep and it is time for ALL who have a faith in God to find a common interest in the restoration of our true National Identity. Until we do that, don't waste your time preaching to Islam about its need to reform. It truly needs to reform. . .but it will never reform so as to embrace all that is rotten about the West.

11 posted on 02/12/2008 4:34:15 AM PST by McBuff
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RushLake

There are no `peaceful’ muslims or `moderate’ muslims.

There are only Silent Muslims in our midst, like sleeper cells, awaiting a change in the correlation of forces between the Dar al-Harb and the Dar al-Islam.

(Does anybody here recall that 10%-20%-30%-40% graph of muslim percentage of population, and just what happens when they achieve critical mass?)

Here in South Carolina the muslims are at the well below 10% level. They are quiet, nondemanding, and probably scared S#@!less of all us good ol’ boys packing heat, beer and Bibles on our way to NASCAR.

There are no footbaths in OUR airports!

;^)


12 posted on 02/12/2008 4:37:50 AM PST by elcid1970
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: gotribe
Moderate Muslims?

Oxymoron?
13 posted on 02/12/2008 5:13:05 AM PST by Proverbs 3-5
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: values
Where are the moderate muslims?


14 posted on 02/12/2008 6:06:37 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: elcid1970
"There are only Silent Muslims in our midst, like sleeper cells, awaiting a change in the correlation of forces between the Dar al-Harb and the Dar al-Islam."

Not so silent today if FNC is accurate. Fox is reporting that there is a threat of terrorist females disguising their bombs as if the females are pregnant here in the US today. The second largest muslime population in the US resides in the Detroit area. They know this is a liberal controlled state, Karl Levin is one of their best friends in the Dhimmi community, they are far from quiet.

I pack heat too and believe that most Americans should be prepared in this manner.

15 posted on 02/12/2008 6:18:39 AM PST by RushLake (Democrats/MSM have never met a terrorist they didn't like.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: values

There are no moderate muslims. There are only jihadists in waiting. Islam is a cult; a system of political, social, and economic beliefs controlled by a theocratic structure unavailable to the general masses of the adherents. Islam rules one third of the world’s population by means of lies, threats, and acts of violence.
The seventh century has not passed for these socially, scientifically, and economically retarded masses. They are brainwashed into believeing that all their woes are a result of some perceived slight by non-muslims at some time in the past.
Their playbook, the quran, is explicit. There are only three ways to deal with the infidel: Convert them, Enslave them, or Kill them. There are no entreaties in the quran to negotiate with the kafir, to seek a middle ground. They are taught that their pedophile prophet is the height of perfection in man, and that islam is the height of glory in the world as it represents Allah’s will.
The notion that lands conquered by islam remain the property of islam for all time, regardless of their subsequent status or control, is just an example of the absurdity that is islam.
And, 1400 years of interpretation by inbred clerics does little to broaden the intellecual base of the belief system.

Islam is a cult and needs to be eradicated.

Lock and Load.


16 posted on 02/12/2008 6:21:28 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Proverbs 3-5

Moderate Muslim = One who wants to destroy only Israel.

Radical Muslim = One who wants to destroy the USA and Israel.

Muslim = One who wants to destroy Western Civilization and rule the world.


17 posted on 02/12/2008 6:33:37 AM PST by thomasjefferson1215
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: PubliusMM

A pity we don’t have a contemporary Senator Cato in the U.S. Senate saying after every speech, ....”And Furthermore Islam Must Be Destroyed.”


18 posted on 02/12/2008 6:37:33 AM PST by thomasjefferson1215
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: PubliusMM
Islam is a cult and needs to be eradicated.

Yep.

L

19 posted on 02/12/2008 6:46:07 AM PST by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: RushLake

More reasons why I prefer S.C. to Dearbornistan.

A hijab-wearer around here is usually a local African-American woman who converted. And if she is your Food Lion checkout person, you will be greeted with “How ya doin’?” as your pork purchases are cheerfully scanned.

Anyway, if the rest of America were as alert to Islamofascism as everyone on this thread seems to be, we could regard the situation more calmly. Especially the one who posted how he carries out personal antijihad every time he encounters a muslim.

More and more I see posts which include the phrase “Stock up on ammo!” A good sign or a bad one, depending on perspective.


20 posted on 02/12/2008 6:55:27 AM PST by elcid1970
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-32 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson