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Idahna, Oregon buried in snow; Mayor asks for emergency help
kgw.com Northwest News Channel 8 ^ | 01:11 PM PST on Sunday, February 3, 2008 | KGW and kgw.com Staff

Posted on 02/04/2008 4:42:28 AM PST by justa-hairyape

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To: Justa
Snow packs potential for flooding if rains come

Heavy snow in recent days shut down interstates and state highways in Oregon and Washington, closed dozens of schools, stranded snowmobilers and backcountry adventurers and -- maybe most dangerous of all -- established conditions that could lead to significant flooding if the region gets a quick thaw and heavy rain.

41 posted on 02/04/2008 5:43:53 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Mad Dawgg

We had a blizzard here in CT in 78 too and it took the National Guard and huge payloaders to clear us out. We were stuck for 4 days, BUT we didn’t have more snowfall right behind the blizzard.

When my brother lived in upstate NY, he said they had to do that weekly. Load up the dump trucks with the payloaders and toss it all in the finger lakes.

These people are in for a tough haul.


42 posted on 02/04/2008 5:45:05 AM PST by Betis70
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To: justa-hairyape

Are the ones in the area significantly above normal yearly snowfalls?


43 posted on 02/04/2008 5:46:06 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: justa-hairyape
KGW has the town spelled wrong. It is Idanha not Idahna. I tried it in google maps and it said it couldn't find Idahna and suggested Idanha.
44 posted on 02/04/2008 5:47:10 AM PST by Betis70
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To: Mad Dawgg

Yes, agreed - it will take much help from the military asap to make any inroads in this situation - which appears to be a real disaster in the making right now.

Surely, we as a country can get these emergency actions going!


45 posted on 02/04/2008 5:47:24 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: thackney

Took a look at Marion Forks. When the snow depth gets over 100 inches, the number shows up as -99.9 . Marion Forks is near Detroit which has 13 feet of snow.


46 posted on 02/04/2008 5:52:35 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: thackney
The total precipitation on your first link was a red line. On some of the Oregon locations, it is heading almost straight up vertically the past week or two. All of them had crossed over the normal precipitation line. The way radars have been showing the snow in the Pacific Northwest the past weeks, anywhere starting from the cascade range to the east was getting slammed. Detroit Oregon is on the west side of the Cascades and has 13 feet. The west side of the range usually gets most of the precipitation as it comes in off the ocean.
47 posted on 02/04/2008 5:58:18 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/cgibin/wygraph.pl?stationidname=21E04S-MARION+FORKS&state=OR

It does not look significantly higher than normal.

Higher for this time of year, but lower than normal for the whole year. Why are they already out of money for a seasonal budget?


48 posted on 02/04/2008 6:01:59 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: justa-hairyape

If Rain Comes? Wonder how long that Oregonian Staff writter has been living in the Northwest. This is the Pacific Northwest - Rains will come and that 160+% of normal snowpack is going to go someplace.


49 posted on 02/04/2008 6:03:09 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Betis70; moder_ator
KGW has the town spelled wrong. It is Idanha not Idahna. I tried it in google maps and it said it couldn't find Idahna and suggested Idanha.

Yes, you are correct. They had misspelled it. Just found it on a paper travel map I have here.

The town asking for help and declaring an emergency is Idanha, Oregon. Located east of Detroit Oregon on 22. Please note, state officials are advising NO traveling into these areas.

Yikes. Idanha is located just north of Coffin Mountain. Wow.

50 posted on 02/04/2008 6:04:36 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: NavyCanDo

I think they were referring to, if rain came early and stronger then normal.


51 posted on 02/04/2008 6:06:19 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Mad Dawgg
I know what you mean about streets becoming canyons. I’m a Minnesotan, so I’m very familiar with snow.

That said, I was amazed by what I saw in Michigan back in the early ‘90’s. We went there to ski Indianhead Mountain and the roads were canyons with 20 foot walls. Unbelievable!

I never could figure out how they piled snow up that high.

52 posted on 02/04/2008 6:06:49 AM PST by mplsconservative
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I never could figure out how they piled snow up that high.

Perhaps it was not piled :>

53 posted on 02/04/2008 6:10:19 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Hard to believe journalists get paid to cover a town in their state and they can’t even spell it correctly.


54 posted on 02/04/2008 6:10:26 AM PST by Betis70
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To: thackney
“We are out of room and snow plowing money,,,

Transfer money out of the Global Warming Fund or some of the other 50 + budget items that are not as important.

55 posted on 02/04/2008 6:11:29 AM PST by TYVets
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To: thackney
On your link both are higher then normal. Precipitation and SWE.
56 posted on 02/04/2008 6:15:13 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: NavyCanDo
This is the Pacific Northwest - Rains will come and that 160+% of normal snowpack is going to go someplace.

And before it runs off, the snow will absorb the water and weigh 5X more than it does now.

57 posted on 02/04/2008 6:17:44 AM PST by poindexter
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LOL! Yeah, I know it comes from the sky.

It was an amazing experience how they kept the roads open, just saying.

58 posted on 02/04/2008 6:18:30 AM PST by mplsconservative
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To: thackney
You really should only be looking at the SWE graph. That is snow. The Precipitation graph is rain and snow. Now look at the smaller graph set down at the bottom. The snow level graph is higher then normal and going straight up.
59 posted on 02/04/2008 6:18:30 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: mplsconservative

When I lived in California I was amazed hearing about some of the snowfall totals in the Sierras. We would have a strong rain storm in the bay area and they would report 12 feet of snow in a single storm. I grew up in a semi-snowy area, but the thought of 12 feet falling in the course of 4 hours just boggled my mind.

I can see how the Donner party got trapped.

We’d go riding our motorcycles in the Sierras and some of the passes were still closed in late May because of all the snow. Some don’t open till late May early June.


60 posted on 02/04/2008 6:19:08 AM PST by Betis70
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