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Keyes: Romney responsible for same-sex marriage fiasco
Worldnetdaily ^ | February 3, 2008

Posted on 02/03/2008 4:31:28 AM PST by Tigen

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To: maui_hawaii

[How many times do we have to answer? You tell me.]

Rinos are just like liberals and use the same tactics when faced with facts, that is, always slander the person who states facts in order to destroy them.
They slay the messenger who tell them the truth.


81 posted on 02/04/2008 4:55:29 AM PST by kindred (The GOP is the proverbial barrel of rotten apples, vote Alan Keyes, a conservative.)
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To: kindred
Bullsh*t.

What we have here is a case of lets run around the block 5000 times.

When facts are presented and an argument laid out and facts put in place the other side ignores all of it and goes back to square one with their lying accusations.

82 posted on 02/04/2008 4:59:21 AM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii

[Romney is a helluva lot more conservative than a small vocal segment want to concede or admit.]

There were only a few conservatives in the primary GOP race and the liberal rinos and the liberal marxists and the liberal moderates crossed over and voted in the once conservative GOP and now only liberals are left in the race. And I am so sick of the slanders and lies of the liberals.
I plan to vote Keyes and I hope enough conservatives will do the same as a protest vote over the rinos controlling the primary voting, a magnificent deception that I personally believe was manipulated by the Northeast godless secular humanist rinos who look down their noses at the working class conservatives and follow after the liberal left fools who are destroying America and our Constitional freedoms.


83 posted on 02/04/2008 5:03:07 AM PST by kindred (The GOP is the proverbial barrel of rotten apples, vote Alan Keyes, a conservative.)
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To: maui_hawaii

Maui is right. This charge has been answered several times. At what point does it become spam?


84 posted on 02/04/2008 5:04:29 AM PST by tortdog
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To: kindred

I live in Maryland. When he didn’t get GOP money to subsidize his campaign. The first think he did was yell race. He’s no better than the rest of the race invoking whiners .


85 posted on 02/04/2008 5:05:11 AM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: TaxCuts

[Keyes is the piece of garbage that caled Dick Cheney’s daughter a selfish hedonist. What did she ever do to him for him to attack her this way?]

Because she is an admitted lesbian and a selfish hedonist. Why do you call the only conservative left in the race a “piece of garbage”.
That is so selfish and hedonist of you to call a man such a thing.


86 posted on 02/04/2008 5:09:03 AM PST by kindred (The GOP is the proverbial barrel of rotten apples, vote Alan Keyes, a conservative.)
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To: kindred

Lashing out of people like that is unkind. You can disagree with a person (or his choices) without coming off as a jerk.


87 posted on 02/04/2008 5:10:53 AM PST by tortdog
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To: rollo tomasi

(After all this I will vote for either McCain or Romney. We live in the age of the “moderate”. Until the electorate can determine big government is...)

Unfortunately “until” never happens, generally it just gets worse and worse and than the empire collapses.
It is the sin of man to pretend that evil is not evil when it is evil. Woe unto them that set darkeness for light and call evil good and good evil.
It is a sad day in America when the inmates run the insame asylum.


88 posted on 02/04/2008 5:13:04 AM PST by kindred (The GOP is the proverbial barrel of rotten apples, vote Alan Keyes, a conservative.)
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To: tortdog

There you go again.


89 posted on 02/04/2008 5:13:54 AM PST by kindred (The GOP is the proverbial barrel of rotten apples, vote Alan Keyes, a conservative.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Alan Keyes is wrong, as a simple search and read of any news articles from the time of the ruling will prove.

For the sake of discussion, we should separate the actual ruling from what the media said about it. We all know what the media want, irrespective of reality, so we should expect their reporting to be biased in favor of gay marriage.

90 posted on 02/04/2008 8:36:45 AM PST by outlawcam (Would you rather shout at the devil from across the aisle, or have him whisper in your ear?)
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To: outlawcam

While a healthy skepticism for the media is a good thing, it isn’t good at grand conspiracies. But if it helps, just look at what the media says the anti-gay-marriage people were saying after the ruling.

You won’t find any of this “ruling is meaningless” stuff, you’ll see the community screaming about how they had instituted gay marriage, and how we needed a constitutional amendment to stop them.

It’s only a few mitt-haters who now claim that we needed NOTHING to stop them.


91 posted on 02/04/2008 8:49:51 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
It’s only a few mitt-haters who now claim that we needed NOTHING to stop them.

I'm not a Mitt "hater," but I agree with the premise that he was wrong in acting as he did.

That Romney misinterpreted his role is not unique to Mitt, unfortunately. A lot of people would have done the same thing. To many, there is nothing as close to an act of God than an opinion of the Supreme Court.

But you'll notice at least one group who agrees with Keyes' view, and that is the Massachusetts Court that made the ruling. It made special care to note that it was not changing Massachusetts law, and that such changes should be left to the legislature.

Said the court, "There is no reason to believe that legislative processes are inadequate to effectuate legal changes in response to evolving evidence, social values, and views of fairness on the subject of same-sex relationships." - Goodridge v Dept. of Public Health

If the Supreme Court specifically states it's the legislature's job to change the law, and the legislature expressly fails to do so, and if the Supreme Court also is not changing the law (and it may not), then the old law is still binding, and the ONLY CONCLUSION one can legitimately draw is that Romney acted inappropriately -- enforcing an OPINION that wasn't legally binding on him or the state.

What's more, even if the court came out and said that he MUST allow gay marriage (which it did not), without the approval of the legislature, if he is sworn to uphold both the federal and state constitutions (which he was), he MUST refuse.

But Romney acted without authority -- before even the court deadline had expired. I know it's not pleasant if you're a conservative and a Romney supporter, but as you can plainly see, it's the truth.

92 posted on 02/04/2008 9:13:30 AM PST by outlawcam (Would you rather shout at the devil from across the aisle, or have him whisper in your ear?)
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To: outlawcam

Alan Keyes has it exactly right.

The only other case in the modern era that is as destructive to our form of government and of our most important fundamental institutions than Mitt Romney’s lawless and unconstitutional implementation of gay marriage in Massachusetts was that of Terri Schiavo.


93 posted on 02/04/2008 10:39:09 AM PST by EternalVigilance (2008: The election in which any memory of the past is obliterated.)
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To: outlawcam

John Adams made it very clear in the Massachusetts constitution that the courts CANNOT legislate or co-opt the power of the executive. He was so emphatic about it that it is repeated several times, in fact.

Even the leftist Goodridge court knew this. That’s why they did nothing more than issue an opinion about the meaning of the marriage law.

The idea that a court can force a legislature to pass a law, or an executive to breach his sworn duty to the constitution, is anathema to our form of republican self-government.

Gay marriage is bad enough. But the damage done by the judicial supremacists is overriding.


94 posted on 02/04/2008 10:44:20 AM PST by EternalVigilance (2008: The election in which any memory of the past is obliterated.)
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To: outlawcam

Very, very well expressed.


95 posted on 02/04/2008 10:45:57 AM PST by EternalVigilance (2008: The election in which any memory of the past is obliterated.)
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To: rbmillerjr

Lies.

Republicans are becoming so Carvillian.


96 posted on 02/04/2008 10:47:06 AM PST by EternalVigilance (2008: The election in which any memory of the past is obliterated.)
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To: rintense
Also the same man who kicked his lesbian daughter to the curb.

Really rintense, you're better than that.

97 posted on 02/04/2008 10:50:13 AM PST by EternalVigilance (2008: The election in which any memory of the past is obliterated.)
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To: Rome2000
The MYTHSTERS immediately turn to personal attacks

Oh yeah. And it's only going to get worse.

98 posted on 02/04/2008 10:51:15 AM PST by EternalVigilance (2008: The election in which any memory of the past is obliterated.)
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To: EternalVigilance

No, I’m not. Disowning your child because they are gay is not the Christian thing to do. Ask Dick and Lynn Cheney.


99 posted on 02/04/2008 10:52:40 AM PST by rintense (You don't advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. Piss off McCain and Huck!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Now, one of their higher-ups will respond to me or to you with an 800 word gibberish post that says everything and nothing at the same time.

Man, you got 'em down cold.

100 posted on 02/04/2008 10:53:45 AM PST by EternalVigilance (2008: The election in which any memory of the past is obliterated.)
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