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Mitt Romney And The Second Amendment
lonestartimes ^ | 2/25/2008

Posted on 01/25/2008 9:59:59 AM PST by JRochelle

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To: CharlesWayneCT
" I know that he is a man who has kept his promises."

Whatever that day's promise happened to be, eh?

101 posted on 01/25/2008 11:16:03 AM PST by Redbob (WWJBD: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: redgirlinabluestate
He took it the issue and worked with the NRA and GOA and got a bill passed which those pro-gun groups were able to endorse. Due to his efforts, gun restrictions were loosened in MA, not tightened. It was the best case scenario in a state like that.

Your statement is incorrect- He worked with the NRA and GOAL (Gun Owners Action League) *not* the GOA (Gun Owners of America).

Here is what the GOA has to say about Mitt's bill:

What we do know is that even in Massachusetts, Romney has tried to appease both sides of the aisle. As governor, Romney supported legislation to ease restrictions on gun licensing in the state, but he only did so at the expense of gun rights, as he signed a draconian ban on common, household firearms that are owned by millions of Americans across the nation.

This is kind of like the thief who sticks a gun in your ribs and demands $100, but then gives you $25 back to "soften" the blow.

GOA on Mitt Romney

Gun Owners of America (GOA) doesn't have much good to say about Mitt Romney at all.

102 posted on 01/25/2008 11:16:35 AM PST by roamer_1 (Conservative always, Republican no more. Keyes '08)
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To: redgirlinabluestate
"Your viable choices are Mitt with his NRA B, McCain with his NRA C+ and Rudy(maybe not so viable after Fla), Hillary & Obama with their F's."

Those are YOUR choices, friend, not mine.

103 posted on 01/25/2008 11:17:40 AM PST by Redbob (WWJBD: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Thanks for that post.


104 posted on 01/25/2008 11:19:01 AM PST by Syncro
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To: Redbob

The NRA wont endorse Mutt or Rudy.

They didn’t endorse in 92 or 96.

Mutt or Rooty nomination = landslide loss!


105 posted on 01/25/2008 11:19:21 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Here ya go, Chuckie. From the GOA webpage "Will the real Mitt please stand up?":

"What we do know is that even in Massachusetts, Romney has tried to appease both sides of the aisle. As governor, Romney supported legislation to ease restrictions on gun licensing in the state, but he only did so at the expense of gun rights, as he signed a draconian ban on common, household firearms that are owned by millions of Americans across the nation."

Comments?

106 posted on 01/25/2008 11:23:30 AM PST by Redbob (WWJBD: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: roamer_1
Gun Owners of America on all the candidates
107 posted on 01/25/2008 11:23:42 AM PST by roamer_1 (Conservative always, Republican no more. Keyes '08)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
108 posted on 01/25/2008 11:23:53 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Noumenon
It’s not about hunting or a guy in your house.
It is about the mass of the citizenry have armed force to popularly resist what they see as government tyranny.

Personally, Mitts an Establishment figure and would be late to any liberty party. Heck, no Romney has ever defended the country let alone the 2nd.

109 posted on 01/25/2008 11:25:16 AM PST by Leisler
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To: redgirlinabluestate
"See # 62, babe."<

I saw it.

Didn't make any sense then, still doesn't.

110 posted on 01/25/2008 11:26:34 AM PST by Redbob (WWJBD: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Redbob

Under Romney’s plan for Massachusetts, the cost of registering firearms would have jumped from $25 to $75. He also called for increases in the cost of firearm identification cards, application fees for a license to carry firearms, and gun dealer fees.

Gun owners said they felt unfairly targeted by Romney’s proposed increases. Democratic lawmakers applauded Romney’s proposal — ultimately raising the cost of gun licenses to $100.

“We certainly shouldn’t be paying anything for our Second Amendment right, because it’s a civil right,” said Jim Wallace, executive director of the Gun Owner’s Action League.

Wallace credited Romney for extending a gun permit from four to six years, but said the higher fees have contributed to a dramatic decline in the number of licensed gun owners in Massachusetts.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/08/28/romney_oversaw_millions_in_fee_hikes_as_massachusetts_governor/?page=2


111 posted on 01/25/2008 11:26:37 AM PST by Leisler
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To: nonsporting
If Hillary or Obama get elected and pursue a program of civilian disarmament, then let it come. When will we be better able to fight? When we're disarmed gradually by a traitorous Republican or suddenly by unashamed enemies of freedom?

Good points.

Incremental evil or instant evil.

The Republican (reluctantly unfortunately) sometimes fight against Liberals in office when they take non conservative and un-American actions.

The GOP took back congress the last time that the Dems got in office.

They are quite reluctant to fight against the SAME things done by RINO's in office.

112 posted on 01/25/2008 11:27:05 AM PST by Syncro
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To: roamer_1

And they have glowing things to say about McCain, Rudy, Hillary and Obama? I think not. Those are the choices. Only a minority of people make their final decision based on one issue anyway. Thankfully.


113 posted on 01/25/2008 11:28:29 AM PST by redgirlinabluestate ( United 4 Mitt - 2 Stop McCain, Huck & Rudy)
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To: Stat-boy
OK – So who do we vote for?

Massive write in effort for Fred Thompson.

114 posted on 01/25/2008 11:29:24 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Beagle8U
"Mutt or Rooty nomination = landslide loss!"

Agreed: another 1996.

But worse: likely the end of the GOP, if people begin to perceive either of those two as the best we can do.

There's so much of this country where Rooty's and Mutt's ideas are not merely foreign, but alien, as if from another planet altogether.
And thank God that's where I live!

115 posted on 01/25/2008 11:30:00 AM PST by Redbob (WWJBD: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Leisler
“We certainly shouldn’t be paying anything for our Second Amendment right,
because it’s a civil right,” said Jim Wallace, executive director of the Gun Owner’s Action League.

Wallace credited Romney for extending a gun permit from four to six years,
but said the higher fees have contributed to a dramatic decline
in the number of licensed gun owners in Massachusetts.

Very slick.

As I have said many times, Romney is slick.

116 posted on 01/25/2008 11:32:00 AM PST by Syncro
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To: Redbob

This will all be irrelevant once Heller is decided. The GOAL will then be able to sue to overturn the entire gun licensing system in Massachusetts.


117 posted on 01/25/2008 11:32:28 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: redgirlinabluestate

3/4 of the stuff I own is illegal in assachsetts


118 posted on 01/25/2008 11:33:20 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: redgirlinabluestate
Only a minority of people make their final decision based on one issue anyway.

My "one issue" is the Constitution and Bill of Rights enforcement. Willard fails that test.

119 posted on 01/25/2008 11:34:02 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: imd102
The Supreme Court is in the process of deciding this issue right now, so what Mitt or anyone else thinks won’t matter.

That all depends on what the SCOTUS rules. If they rule against the plain wording of the Second Amendment, something which (after Kelo) I would not say is impossible, the feeding frenzy will begin in the Democrat-controlled Congress. The veto pen will be all that stands between our Right and them.

None of the front four inspire confidence in me in such a case, and certainly none of the Democrats.

120 posted on 01/25/2008 11:34:53 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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