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1 posted on 01/09/2008 8:54:53 AM PST by connell
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Paul is a Libetarian and should truthfully declair himself to be one.

I'd rather be waterboarded than to have to vote for John McCain.
444 posted on 01/10/2008 6:51:54 AM PST by citizen (Capt. McQueeg: "Have any of you an explanation for the quart of missing strawberries?" [click-clack])
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The Republican Party is a big tent movement.

With Ron Paul's polling numbers as low as they are it is only a matter of time before he withdraws. But take a look at this:

"I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution, or that have failed in their purpose, or that impose on the people an unwarranted financial burden. I will not attempt to discover whether legislation is "needed" before I have first determined whether it is constitutionally permissible. And if I should later be attacked for neglecting my constituents’ "interests," I shall reply that I was informed their main interest is liberty and that in that cause I am doing the very best I can."

Those words are from Senator Barry Goldwater. I remember how he fared in 1964. But Ron Paul's base of support is insignificant compared to that of Goldwater within the GOP and that is why he will fail.
450 posted on 01/10/2008 9:12:14 AM PST by Zoids
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Christopher Cook and James Kirchick despise Dr. Paul alright...though not necessarily for the reasons they attempt to create here. Here is the real reason Cook and Kirchick seek to smear Dr. Paul. Ron Paul against gay marriage

And for the record, Dr. No voted YES for the King Holiday. This was hardly the act of a racist as Cook and Krichick attempt to portray him.

Moreover, opposing billions of taxpayer dollars sent to Israel, and the muslims countries, does not make one anti-semitic, anti-catholic, anti-muslim, anti-buddist, anti-hindu, anti-christian, or anti-anything. It makes one a true fiscal conservative.

451 posted on 01/10/2008 9:51:50 AM PST by takenoprisoner (Can you hear that whistle blow? I can. I'm on the freedom train. Don't miss it.)
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The media keeps a nut case like paul in the debates and excludes someone like hunter so he can reflect on the party with the inference that the whole GOP is nuts.
466 posted on 01/10/2008 10:01:30 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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It is possible to be against a particular war without having a liberal, anti-American, or anti-military mind set.

This plea for Mr. Paul to leave the Republican Party would tend to imply that no one is welcome in the party who does not agree that all military conflicts that our president may lead us into are inerrant and just and right.

Left-wingers may like Paul’s stance on the war and feel so strongly about it that they lend him support (solely on that issue). Many right-wingers and Constitutionalists, who are genuine conservatives, also believe that we could have handled and can handle our enemies in a different manner (but still using military might — a necessity, I believe).

I am firmly against America being an global nation-builder. I am opposed to the year-in-and-year-out wars to end all wars (”perpetual wars for perpetual peace”). At the same time, I am for the building and maintaining of the mightiest and best-equipped military on the planet, and keeping it that way. I believe that if we need to obliterate anybody for the safety of our own nation, we should do it on the merits of doing it alone, and not because we have United Nations Organization mandates. We should go after the terrorist cells by stealth, and hit them in such a way that they can not recover (no matter where they are) — and I believe the media should know NOTHING about it at all until it is finished and assessed to have been a success.

But I believe our occupation of Iraq was unnecessary and was and is now a waste of resources and manpower. If we had kept our blabby media mouths SHUT to begin with, we could have used the prowess of our military to accomplish much more by stealth early on than we have accomplished in the past six years.

I am a Nationalist, in that I believe that we should put America FIRST (all of America as a nation, not only the economic elite). Mr. Paul is a Nationalist, and therefore it would be expected that Nationalists, even some in strains we think are too extreme to praise him.

I also believe we should never “mongrolize” our Nation by use of open borders in the way we are doing it NOW. That doesn’t make me a racist or a cruel man.

Having spent years in foreign countries myself, and having watched the lines at U.S. embassies and consulates for visas to the U.S., I must say, simply, THE WHOLE WORLD CAN’T GO TO THE UNITED STATES, AND THE UNITED STATES STILL REMAIN A SAFE AND A FREE COUNTRY. Our open borders and our liberal visa and immigrations policies, with lack of enforcement against violations will only serve to turn us into the Dis-United Mongrol States.

Now when we say things like that, there are many skin-heads who would raise their clenched fists and say, “Yeah, we agree.” But we are not skin heads. But the skin heads don’t realize that we would not incorporate them, either, into leadership, if we were in public office. I don’t believe Ron Paul would do so either.

Sometimes issues just happen to intersect, and the author of the piece as much as admits this.

I am a Duncan Hunter man, but I say, “STAY IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, MR PAUL, PLEASE. YOU ARE A POSITIVE INFLUENCE IN THE PARTY.”

468 posted on 01/10/2008 10:47:46 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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