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1 posted on 01/07/2008 2:03:04 PM PST by jmc813
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I’ve appreciated all the information I’ve gotten from Medved regarding religion, pop culture and especially the Israeli/palestinian age old conflict. But I lost all respect for him regarding conservative politics when he jumped on the bandwagon supporting illegal immigration. Thats the major reason why he supports McLame and the major reason why I consider McLame a democrap rather than just a stupid RINO...........


68 posted on 01/07/2008 2:39:45 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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While I find that Medved often disappoints, he is right about this. It makes no sense to presume to run a RINO out of office unless there is the realistic prospect of replacing him with a better republican. Conceding a seat to the 'rats is indeed self-defeating and stupid.
69 posted on 01/07/2008 2:39:53 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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Medved, you ignorant slut.


71 posted on 01/07/2008 2:42:21 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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People do get carried away with the "RINO" charges.

Majority or governing parties demand more of their representatives than minority or opposition parties. So Republicans are stricter about ideology than the Democrats have been. That may change if the Democrats win the next election.

Thirty years ago, there was a real difference between the average Northeastern Republican Representative and "real RINOs" like John Lindsay or Charles Goodell, Edward Brooke, Jacob Javits or George Aiken.

Nowadays, just about any Republican who can get elected in this part of the country is called a RINO. That's tantamount to writing off an entire region of the country.

73 posted on 01/07/2008 2:43:45 PM PST by x
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Sorry Mike. We're just getting warmed up!!


77 posted on 01/07/2008 2:48:03 PM PST by ovrtaxt (People seemed to be content, $50 paid the rent, FREAKS WERE IN A CIRCUS TENT, Those were the days.)
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Sorry Michael but I live in California.

Several years ago we had a governor who run the state 14 billion into the red by spending tax money from the dot com bubble before it was collected, supported gun control and the gay agenda.

We mounted a recall, organized, signed petitions and voted him out of office. It was a great demonstration of democracy in action.

Problem is, we elected a guy who claims to be a republican who supports the gay agenda and gun control and who has run the state 14 billion into the red by spending tax money from the housing bubble before it was collected.

No more RINOs, no more pseudo cons.

80 posted on 01/07/2008 2:50:26 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF ("Gun Control" is not about the guns. "Illegal Immigration" is not about the immigration)
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Medved appears to be a Huckabee shill.


84 posted on 01/07/2008 2:56:35 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Scrape the bottom, vote for Rodham!)
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My only concern about the ‘RINO’ wars is that the term is tossed about every time someone says something someone else disagrees with. It is used as the insult designed to end arguments when actual facts don’t seem to suffice. It is the label placed on someone so as to marginalize them and impugn their credibility.

I hate it (the term RINO) in the manner it is often used on FR because it is a weak argument - it is simply name calling. It does nothing to further the discussion of issues, the debate on principal, and the education of the populace about what core conservatism really is.

There seems to be an unwritten motto - when you are losing a debate, pull the RINO card. When you disagree with someone - pull the RINO card. When you prefer one candidate over another - pull the RINO card. It smacks of intellectual laziness, and I for one am tired of it.

That said - I must disagree with Mr. Medved. It is not in fact a RINO hunt that we are on. Rather, it is a conservative hunt. And that, Kind Sir, we will not abandon.

/Soap-Box


85 posted on 01/07/2008 2:56:47 PM PST by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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This thread needed this pic.

91 posted on 01/07/2008 3:12:01 PM PST by FreeInWV
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Democrats are a street gang, dividing up the spoils. Anyone who wants to join their gang is welcome, so long as they stay loyal to the party. Republicans are a philosophical society, joined together by a shared ideology. If you don't share the basics of that ideology, you shouldn't call yourself a Republican.

Medved doesn't get that, because he is a Huckabeetle.

93 posted on 01/07/2008 3:12:48 PM PST by Defiant (Huckabee puts the goober back in gubernatorial.)
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How does it help if politicians or office-holders with whom you disagree leave your party and join the opposition?

How does it help the party if politicians or office-holders stray from the party and join with the opposition on important issues they should agree with?

I generally like Medved, but if an (R) is acting like anything but an (R) why should we, the base, continue to support them?

95 posted on 01/07/2008 3:17:09 PM PST by infidel29 (I'm pulling for Fred... The 6 of us just don't have a loud enough voice to "b" Duncan Hunter "ttt")
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Governor Schwarzenegger of California regularly draws that denunciation. Those who make war on RINO’s, however, ought to confront an obvious question: would you really prefer that such people drop the Republican designation? How does it help if politicians or office-holders with whom you disagree leave your party and join the opposition?

When they don't agree with the party platform, and adopt the agenda of liberals, they are the opposition. Why do you (Mr. Medved) support them just because they put an (R) next to their name?

98 posted on 01/07/2008 3:23:05 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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Those who make war on RINO’s, however, ought to confront an obvious question: would you really prefer that such people drop the Republican designation?

Absolutely. The Jeffords business is a perfect example of why such people should be out of the party.

99 posted on 01/07/2008 3:24:28 PM PST by Sloth (Democrats and GOPers are to government what Jeffrey Dahmer and Michael Jackson are to babysitting)
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alleged “RINO” Jim Jeffords

Would Medved "allege" that Jeffords is a conservative? What a retard this guy is. Just like his liberal counterpart Frank Rich, he should have stuck with movie reviews.

103 posted on 01/07/2008 3:50:33 PM PST by montag813
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Ronald Reagan himself used to say that “if somebody agrees with me 70% of the time, rather than 100%, that doesn’t make him my enemy.”

To say either Jeffords or Chafee agree with even 20% of the Republican platform would be a big stretch.

104 posted on 01/07/2008 3:53:59 PM PST by montag813
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Can we all at least see the MSM and Faux GOP are pushing whatever candidates can divide the party.

They are pushing liberal RINOs, not a candidate that can unite this party.

The more left this party moves, the more inclined I am to stop voting.

Please, do not tell me to hold my nose. I have done it, and absolutley nothing changed. Y’all want a socialist? Have at it. Probably be best if you can pin the misery on a Democrat.


107 posted on 01/07/2008 4:03:36 PM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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Medved is such a total jerk.


109 posted on 01/07/2008 4:05:01 PM PST by Brandie (Vote for a Conservative, Hunter or Thompson ....And NO Rino's!)
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Chafee and Leiberman voted virtually the same.


116 posted on 01/07/2008 4:21:53 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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I don’t care what Medved has to say about movies and I sure has hell don’t care what he has to say about us calling some republicans RINO’s!


120 posted on 01/07/2008 4:34:31 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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Whew.... I like Michael but he really jumped the shark here.


121 posted on 01/07/2008 4:35:37 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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