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GOP Debate #13 thread: Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #13 – Manchester, New Hampshire 01/05/08 - Official Discussion Thread

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1 posted on 01/06/2008 4:03:44 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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FOX focus group on now

Mitt Romney HUGE win, won over the whole crowd!

Listen to the comments.

Fred Thompson CLEARLY the weakest.

Listen to the comments.


1,623 posted on 01/06/2008 6:35:24 PM PST by Bluestateredman (Self-sufficiency is the American Way)
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Ok remind me never to move to New Hampshire.
I’m sure its a beautiful state and all but
I have to be able to converse with people who actually
can formulate thought processes. sheesh.


1,646 posted on 01/06/2008 6:36:26 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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Almost over, what a good feeling, turning off Fox News.


1,648 posted on 01/06/2008 6:36:31 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Donating to Fred Thompson is the antidote to media bias.)
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What a stupid idea, that Lutz focus group. It’s so obvious they want to tell people who to support right after seeing the debate.


1,681 posted on 01/06/2008 6:38:11 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Donating to Fred Thompson is the antidote to media bias.)
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Fred Thompson is the only one who will unite all Republicans. There are no subgroups of Republicans who will sit out if Fred is the nominee.

That’s just not true of the other candidates.


1,706 posted on 01/06/2008 6:39:47 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Donating to Fred Thompson is the antidote to media bias.)
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Fred lovers, time to face facts!

Put your groupthink aside and see the handwriting on the wall. Fred is going nowhere. He showed no energy, no enthusiasm, no charisma, nothing.

Yes, he has some good ideas. Being POTUS goes way beyond having good ideas. A lot of us have good ideas, but we’re not going to be POTUS.

Huckabee bombed, and an unbiased group of NH repubs overwhelmingly voted him a dud.

Mitt Romney DOMINATED this debate. He was clear, concise, energetic and positive. He has a strong record as a leader and as the group said, HE can beat Obama.


1,787 posted on 01/06/2008 6:44:17 PM PST by Bluestateredman (Self-sufficiency is the American Way)
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To Fox News, the “all stars,” and the fake Luntz “focus group,” I say this: If you get lucky once in a while and say something the people of this country agree with, then good for you.

Otherwise, take notice: you will never tell me what to think and I’m sure lots of people think the same thing.


1,836 posted on 01/06/2008 6:48:19 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Donating to Fred Thompson is the antidote to media bias.)
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Still don’t get why NH just doesn’t like Thompson...Fred Barnes is an a-hole BTW. I’m actually glad Bill Kristol brought it up as a cheap shot.


1,884 posted on 01/06/2008 6:54:38 PM PST by RockinRight (Huck Supporters: Being Christian doesn't make one an automatic conservative. Far from it.)
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Well, that was dreadful. I’d have to say the co-winners of the debate were Hunter and Paul.
1,936 posted on 01/06/2008 7:00:04 PM PST by Perchant
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I could handle Romney as Secretary of Commerce under President Thompson.


2,021 posted on 01/06/2008 7:12:51 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Donating to Fred Thompson is the antidote to media bias.)
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I watched this debate in its entirety. I figured a Fox debate might be better than the others. It was a pretty good format, done in a reasonably fair manner. Chris Wallace tried to set up arguments. They did argue some, but not so much as to generate headlines for the liberal MSM. I thought they all did pretty well. They all had some good comments. Each talks a good game, as Republicans understand it. Each says he favors lower taxes, etc. Each was is hard to pin down on his particular weakness. To listen to McCain, he was never for amnesty. Sorry, I just don’t buy it.

I listened to some of the post debate discussion since this was Fox. The pollster, Luntz, had a group that reacted to the debates. They really liked Romney. That surprised me as I thought they all sounded good.

In the first round of Fox dialog, Fred Barnes made a negative comment about Thompson. Kristol took good natured offense and called the remark a cheap shot from a pundit (or something to that effect). Kristol thought no one’s mind would be changed by the debate (my opinion too). Kondracke (mild liberal) thought that Huckabee was the only one who felt the pain of the middle class and that the Republicans had better wise up on that in order to take on Obamma. Liberals are always claiming that our capitalist nation is going down the tubes unless government steps in. Is it any more true of this year than others?

Fred is growing on me. Mitt is O.K. but keeps lapsing back into his latest speech. He did seem to have a control of facts. Mitt can’t keep up with Huckabee in a debate, but can anyone else really follow that (southern) fast talker? Giulianni seems to have some valid accomplishments under his belt. I think McCain may claim too much credit for the surge strategy. He deserves credit, but maybe not so much as he claims. Still, exaggerated claims are to be expected and probably all parties are guilty to some degree. I’d have to say that I liked Fred best. At one point, I was hoping that Romney would credit Hunter. But I don’t think Romney is that “quick” or would consider that smart.

It seemed to me that Wallace gave most of the time to Romney, Huckabee, and McCain, in line with expected results through New Hampshire. Still, the others were slighted.

2,229 posted on 01/06/2008 8:06:50 PM PST by ChessExpert (Reagan dismantled the Russian empire of 21 conquered nations)
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Along with the Wyoming results, here's another story that has been buried by the media.

Immigration from Mexico kills four people

2,252 posted on 01/06/2008 8:18:57 PM PST by pulaskibush (USA, founded by tolerant Christians. USSR, founded by intolerant Secularist.)
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We have an "undecided" voter from the Luntz focus group in Debate #5 still "undecided" before tonight's debate...

Frank Luntz's Professional "undecided" focus group members (September 5 vs January 6)

2,368 posted on 01/06/2008 11:49:40 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Duncan Hunter for President)
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It's amazing that Rudy's 'strongest social issues' (pro-gay, pro-abortion, anti-gun) weren't even touched last night!!!

Maybe he would have done better if those issues would have gotten some discussion...lol

2,392 posted on 01/07/2008 7:31:20 AM PST by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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Is it just me, or is the difference in substance and knowledge between the Republican debates, on the one hand, and the Democratic debates, on the other, even more pronounced than in the other campaigns?


2,394 posted on 01/07/2008 8:20:52 AM PST by dinoparty
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RUSH: The only way she leaves the race is in a straightjacket.

Please Don't Quit, Mrs. Clinton

Once We Get Out of Iowa and New Hampshire, the GOP Race Begins

Rush Analyzes the GOP Debate

Will Conservatives Sit Out '08?


2,417 posted on 01/07/2008 2:39:03 PM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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