Posted on 12/24/2007 8:08:12 AM PST by Greg F
Brokered Convention is so-o-o-o last century, early last century.
Meaning that we will always have a nominee under the modern rules by the time of the convention through primaries? I don't think so.
FDR had his moment of greatness from the attack on Pearl Harbor to his death. While he was the grandfather of modern American big government and the welfare state, Roosevelt was a great war leader, and his management of the Federal government during the Second World War was the best wartime executive leadership in this nation’s history, Lincoln included.
Also for the trivia bin, we've had a number of Generals (mostly battlefield promotions) not mentioned so far who served as POTUS: Andrew Jackson, William Henry Harrison, Zachary Taylor, James K. Polk, James A. Garfield, Rutherford B. Hayes.
FDR’s wartime performance is balanced by his mismanagement of the depression and ending of the American tradition of limited government. At best a wash for me . . . a big fat 0 . . .
Correction: Scratch Polk, I was thinking of Franklin Pierce, Mexican War.
Panama Canal, conservation, trust busting and building up the navy. I guess I look for less active government . . . if you shrink the government or significantly slow its growth (as Eisenhower, Reagan, and Coolidge did) that's my list. Nobody else did that, including T.R. I think . . .
You named Presidents from the great American historical blind spot (we know Revolution, Civil War and pick up our history again around 1900 . . .). Apparently little happended between 1820 and 1900 other than the Civil War . . .
The system whereby we choose a candidate has made that “brokered” convention a near impossibility outside of the dreams of people whose candidates do not seem to be faring well in the primaries.
For example, well before the Civil War, Pierce took us effectively from Louisiana to the Pacific Ocean hiding (some believe surrepticiously) the news of gold at Sutter's Mill until the Mexican government completed the Hidalgo treaty, all in 1848-49.
Well, if no-one gets the majority of delegates we have a “brokered” convention. It would only take 3 popular candidates to make that happen.
I was being “sarcastic” when I said that apparently little happened in those years. I was pointing out that if no major war is involved or it’s not in the living memory of people we don’t teach enough of it in our schools. I think that we have a short enough history as a country that we should teach all of it in the elementary through high school years. I wish it had been taught to me. Luckily we will probably home school so I’ll get a second bite at the apple personally when it comes time to teach American History.
I doubt Petreaus would be eligible for the nomination. He would have to retire from the military first.
I see Jeb Bush being the consensus candidate for a brokered convention. The present GOP candidates are all too flawed.
Jeb would make a great President. I think the continuation of the Bush dynasty would be the problem politically even though he’s the best of the bunch as far as being conservative and an effective leader and communicator.
There are a lot of good conservative governors actually. I’d like to see Mark Sanford considered out of South Carolina. Any guy that brings live pigs into the state house after his vetoes cutting spending are overridden — and it’s a Republican legislature — is a guy I want to see rise.
Got a point there.
Isn’t that called a gimme, gimme world.
Getting something for nothing.
We got Ike, and Japan got MacArthur, whom Truman fired, after he was on the way to spanking China's but over Korea.
Which country made the most progress after the war?
“Got a point there.
Isn’t that called a gimme, gimme world.
Getting something for nothing.”
This is the liberal mindset. What is mine is mine, and what is yours needs to paid in taxes for redistribution to me.
“Got a point there.
Isn’t that called a gimme, gimme world.
Getting something for nothing.”
This is the liberal mindset. What is mine is mine, and what is yours needs to paid in taxes for redistribution to me.
Now you talking. It’s called Progressive Marxism. Take from the rich and keep on taking till there is no more.
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