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Reconsidering Huck
NRO ^ | December 21, 2007 | Mark Hemingway

Posted on 12/22/2007 6:36:25 AM PST by LowCountryJoe

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To: LowCountryJoe

If our party nominates that malicious little goober Huckabee, we deserve to lose. We will have confirmed the worst stereotypes about conservatives.


61 posted on 12/22/2007 1:48:41 PM PST by lady lawyer
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To: Monkey Face
"12 Action Steps to STOP Being Cynical."

"Don't be cynical--trust me"...the siren song of con artists ever since...well..the sirens.

62 posted on 12/22/2007 1:49:04 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Agent Smith
In short the purported Republican brain trust is flunking lunch, and selling us down the river

"We're sorry... your call did not go through. Please hang up and do not try again later."

63 posted on 12/22/2007 1:53:32 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Vigilanteman
He's actually a good guy with good intentions

As Rush accurately points out, judging someone by his intentions is the hallmark of the liberal. If you want to know what his real intentions are, look at the effect of what he has done, not what he says.

64 posted on 12/22/2007 1:58:41 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Agent Smith

Bingo!


65 posted on 12/22/2007 2:07:38 PM PST by ears_to_hear (2Cr 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:)
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To: Agent Smith
He loves to give freebies to illegals and remains unapologetic about it. No thanks.
66 posted on 12/22/2007 2:10:00 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I trust my instincts. They screamed at me to “watch out for this guy.” To quote a favorite author: He looks fair and feels foul.


67 posted on 12/22/2007 2:24:42 PM PST by Monkey Face (Someone seems to have purloined my words of wit and wisdom....)
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To: CaptainK
He loves to give freebies to illegals and remains unapologetic about it. No thanks

Yea unlike the others ? Rudy had a sanctuary city, they got EVERYTHING they wanted at the cost to state taxpayers..same for Mass, Romney had them working for him, McCain wanted amnesty .

At least Huck wants the fence and the parents to go home..

Get a new excuse

68 posted on 12/22/2007 2:33:55 PM PST by ears_to_hear (2Cr 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:)
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To: ears_to_hear

“At least Huck wants the fence and the parents to go home..”

ears_to_hear, and a blind eye. Huck says to go home for an hour, weeks at the most and come back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOKe9RSEyM8


69 posted on 12/22/2007 2:47:10 PM PST by Haddit (Hunter is still the Best)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Rush is right. But Huckabee is nowhere near as bad as your average Lieberal. He’s actually good on social issues. Still, I’d vote for Joe Lieberman before I would Huckabee since Lieberman is at least good on the issue that matters the most.


70 posted on 12/22/2007 2:55:30 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Rush is right. But Huckabee is nowhere near as bad as your average Lieberal. He’s actually good on social issues. Still, I’d vote for Joe Lieberman before I would Huckabee since Lieberman is at least good on the issue that matters the most.


71 posted on 12/22/2007 2:55:31 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: rogue yam

“So, do you agree that “the power to tax is the power to destroy” or not? I do. Do you? You seem to want to have it both ways on this point.”

Yes, I agree with you, as would most reasonable people.

My point, though, was that YOU were the one that made the leap to turn this into a taxation issue. That isn’t what we were discussing at the time. We were discussing whether addressing something legislatively necessarily meant that we were declaring it illegal, as the author of the original piece stated in setting up his “straw man.”


72 posted on 12/22/2007 3:07:40 PM PST by Norseman
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To: rogue yam

You wrote: “Huck has never felt the full wrath of the MSM. If he becomes the Republican nominee he will. We have seen how Huck has responded to the relatively mild criticism he has received from conservatives in the last few weeks and he has been brittle and defensive, and he has lashed out at his conservative inquisitors. The nation as a whole is a quite different playing field than one tiny podunk state. What has Mike Huckabee ever done in his life that makes you think that he can prevent the MSM from portraying him as an ignorant, goofy hillbilly?”

You say he’s been “brittle and defensive.” How about “he’s been quite effective at defending himself,” instead? “Lashed out”? Again, he’s making his case. What would you have him do instead, just take it? Show me one YouTube clip where he’s lost it while making his case. It might be out there, and I’d like to see it if it is, but I’m betting he’s remained in control the entire time...not so easy when Rush himself is taking you on.

As for the “ignorant, goofy hillbilly” that’s easy. He’s not, as any educated person can tell by just listening to him speak. How do you think he’s doing so well, anyway? When he gets in front of a crowd, he has a way of connecting. This is the main reason he’s outrun his opponents. By the way, that “ignorant hillbilly” graduated from college in a bit over two years, I believe.

The mainstream media ALWAYS thinks conservatives (yes, Huckabee is a conservative) are weak-brained and easy marks. They’ve way underestimated every Republican presidential candidate since Nixon, and even he managed to win twice in spite of them. They show respect for Reagan now but when he was president, they considered him an ignoramous suffering from Alzheimer’s.

Reagan won easily because he had communication skills. Bush I only got elected because he followed Reagan. Bush II barely got elected, stuggling because he lacks the ability to effectively communicate to a crowd, regardless of his ability to connect on an individual basis. Huckabee connects, but more important, he’s got Reagan’s ability to say what needs saying in an effective manner. The guy has terrific speaking skills, period. He’s certainly no “ignorant, goofy hillbilly.”


73 posted on 12/22/2007 3:42:03 PM PST by Norseman
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To: LowCountryJoe

“but how in the world would you conclude that Huckabee’s vision of the use of legislation is one which would protect liberties rather than strip liberties.”

The man carries his concealed carry permit in his billfold right next to his duck hunting license. It’s the Romney/Guiliani/McCain/etc. supporters in here that keep telling you Huckabee’s a liberal. He’s not. The other guys, though? It’s them you should be concerned over.

Romney a conservative? Give me a break. And Guiliani will sign your guns away the first term given the chance, and he’ll get the chance. McCain has already shown you what he thinks of liberty with McCain/Feingold. Thompson would be fine, but he doesn’t seem to be able to mount a campaign, something that’s sort of important in getting to the highest office in the land.

Huckabee is one of those rare conservatives who can state conservative principles in a way that can be accepted by all but the extreme liberal part of the population. This is the key to demonstrating that this country is basically conservative at the core.

In fact, let’s run Obama vs. Huckabee with neither one playing “gotcha” and both making their respective cases. Huckabee will win in a walk because, as I said, this country is conservative at the core. To prove this, though, we’ve got to run a candidate that can get significant black votes, Hispanic votes, teacher votes and union votes.

Huckabee has already proven that he can do that, and I don’t believe it’s because he’s promising to sacrifice our liberty. It’s because he’s not writing these groups off at the outset, as so many conservative candidates are prone to do. I’ll say it again...Huckabee understands all this.


74 posted on 12/22/2007 4:06:00 PM PST by Norseman
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To: ears_to_hear
But he wants the kids to stay and get a tax payer subsidized college education.

I’m glad someone loves his Robin Hood spirit with our tax money. And I don't compare someone hiring a lawn service without scrutinizing every employee to the setting up a state wide system to give out taxpayer money to citizens of a foreign country.

75 posted on 12/22/2007 4:24:20 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Norseman

I’m sure he will get the Hispanic votes, teacher votes and union votes. The people that normally vote Democrat.
If it walks like a Huck, talks like a Huck…


76 posted on 12/22/2007 4:26:06 PM PST by Haddit (Hunter is still the Best)
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To: x

Your response proves my point. About 10 Senators TOTAL qualify for a phony A rating with a 70% score. I am sure the numbers are worse since 2005, the last year listed.


77 posted on 12/22/2007 4:27:16 PM PST by Agent Smith (Fallujah delenda est. (I wish))
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To: Norseman
My point, though, was that YOU were the one that made the leap to turn this into a taxation issue.

Wrong. Here's what you posted:

...can’t anyone imagine even a single legislative effort that would encourage the positive trend? Here’s just one: No sales taxes on fruits and vegetables.

It was you who first mentioned taxes. I was responding to you.

78 posted on 12/22/2007 5:31:02 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: Norseman
You say he’s been “brittle and defensive.” How about “he’s been quite effective at defending himself,” instead?

How about this:

Second, the quickness with which Huckabee conflates criticism of his record and his policy statements with antipathy towards evangelicals is telling. Although Huckabee exudes charm and humility, I've heard Arkansas Republicans complain of his thin skin and vindictiveness. His statement on the Today program tends to confirm that assessment.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2007/12/019321.php

Here's a detailed analysis with supporting documentation regarding Huck's vindictiveness. The author holds:

Reporters recall Huckabee as combative, even malicious, in response to critical coverage. He was known to attack reporters, fire off scathing e-mails to newsrooms, and complain to editors about probing questions. "I was just astounded at how vindictive he was," says Joan Duffy, who covered Huckabee for The Commercial Appeal of Memphis in the '90s. "He took it all so personally. . . . You're either with him, or you're a mortal enemy."

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=0f9a4c7e-8215-47ca-8847-4beeaf747b8e

And finally, here's an analysis of the Huckster's ethical lapses:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/kstrasselpw/?id=110011021

The MSM is laying off Huck now hoping Republicans are stupid enough to nominate him. If we do, Huck will be shredded to ribbons instantly. It is ignorant and foolish in the extreme to think otherwise.

79 posted on 12/22/2007 6:08:54 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: Agent Smith
The convention has been that the free traders a fiscal conservatives are the brains of the operation and the social conservatives have been the muscle.

I consider myself a conservative in every fiscal and social way. Who created this dichotomy and why? If I hold social conservative views dear, if I dare to make them a priority, am I just a useful idiot whose first, second and third choice in the primaries can't win the general like Rudy McRomney can because all the Festivus celebrators out there have no respect for Christianity? I'm getting a really sick of the "convention" and the establishment, MSM or otherwise that spins it.

80 posted on 12/22/2007 7:54:11 PM PST by Theophilus (Nothing can make Americans safer than to stop aborting them.)
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