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Does Skull Prove That The First Americans Came From Europe?
UTexas.edu ^ | 12-03-2002 | Steve Conner

Posted on 11/24/2007 11:28:47 AM PST by blam

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http://users.on.net/~mkfenn/Catastrophes.htm

Legends describe what happened:

“The water having poured over the land (2km thick ice sheet collapses into the sea),

human dwellings disappeared. The wind carried them away.

They fastened several boats to one another.

The waves traversed the Rocky Mountains.

A great wind drove them.

Presently the moon and the sun disappeared (atmospheric dust, post impact).

Men died of a terrible heat (firestorms post impact).

They also perished in the waves.

Men bewailed what happened.

Uprooted trees floated about in the waves.

Men having fastened boats together trembled with cold.

The above translation is attributed to the native tribe called the Esquimaux of Canada. Just one of hundreds of flood traditions that many scholars have collected.

Also from further south in the Carolinas we have the following very interesting tradition:

“a star fell to the earth, and rain soon followed (oceanic impact, causing vast amounts of water to evaporate).

Days and days of rain quenched the fire.

Great holes burned in the earth by the fire were filled,

forming a great inland sea...


81 posted on 11/25/2007 2:01:19 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: Ptarmigan
brilliant link, thanks...


82 posted on 11/25/2007 2:07:07 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: sevenbak
25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided...

Exanding Earth?

83 posted on 11/25/2007 2:21:48 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
'First Americans Were Australian'
84 posted on 11/25/2007 3:01:34 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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First Americans
85 posted on 11/25/2007 3:09:09 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

Aboriginal history is not a history of isolation with a local Aboriginal pointing to a painting of an Indonesian prau (boat).

86 posted on 11/25/2007 4:15:55 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Thanks for the map. I've wondered exactly where Solo Man was found. Hmmmm. Not far from Flores Island where the 'Hobbits' were found. BTW, Flores remained an island even during the Ice Age.
87 posted on 11/25/2007 4:27:32 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam
perhaps these links will be useful...

http://www-personal.une.edu.au/~pbrown3/ausindex.html

http://www.canovan.com/HumanOrigin/kow/kowswamp.htm

Just another can of worms!

88 posted on 11/25/2007 4:59:15 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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Scientists in Britain have identified the oldest skeleton ever found on the American continent in a discovery that raises fresh questions about the accepted theory of how the first people arrived in the New World. The skeleton's perfectly preserved skull belonged to a 26-year-old woman who died during the last ice age on the edge of a giant prehistoric lake which once formed around an area now occupied by the sprawling suburbs of Mexico City.

Scientists from Liverpool's John Moores University and Oxford's Research Laboratory of Archaeology have dated the skull to about 13,000 years old, making it 2,000 years older than the previous record for the continent's oldest human remains. However, the most intriguing aspect of the skull is that it is long and narrow and typically Caucasian in appearance, like the heads of white, western Europeans today. Modern-day native Americans, however, have short, wide skulls that are typical of their Mongoloid ancestors who are known to have crossed into America from Asia on an ice-age land bridge that had formed across the Bering Strait.

The extreme age of Peñon woman suggests two scenarios. Either there was a much earlier migration of Caucasian-like people with long, narrow skulls across the Bering Strait and that these people were later replaced by a subsequent migration of Mongoloid people. Alternatively, and more controversially, a group of Stone Age people from Europe made the perilous sea journey across the Atlantic Ocean many thousands of years before Columbus or the Vikings.

Silvia Gonzalez, a Mexican-born archaeologist working at John Moores University and the leader of the research team, accepted yesterday that her discovery lends weight to the highly contentious idea that the first Americans may have actually been Europeans. "At the moment it points to that as being likely. They were definitely not Mongoloid in appearance. They were from somewhere else. As to whether they were European, at this point in time we cannot say 'no'," Dr. Gonzalez said.

Old article, old data.

The Santa Rosa Island skeleton is now dated at 13,400 years. No DNA last I heard.

Long, narrow skulls are not only Caucasian.

The migration of Caucasian-like folks may be Haplogroup X. But they came via Siberia, and are not Europeans or anything close.

Silvia Gonzalez has not produced any DNA last I heard, although I understand she may be submitting some samples shortly (I don't know exactly which samples will be submitted).

There is a lot of speculation about Europeans in the New World before anyone else. Some of this comes from the early estimate Chatters gave to the Kennewick skeleton. That has not been supported by subsequent studies, including Chatters' own studies. Long and narrow, yes; Caucasian, no evidence yet.

Most of this Caucasian in the New World stuff appears to be junk science. I would like to see more evidence and less speculation.

89 posted on 11/25/2007 9:05:17 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Fred Nerks

(terribly belated) Thanks Fred Nerks.


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