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Mother-To-Be Flees As Social Workers Warn Her They Will Take Her Baby Away At Birth
Daily Mail ^ | 20th November 2007 | PAUL SIMS

Posted on 11/20/2007 7:17:44 PM PST by DogByte6RER

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To: William Terrell

Wrong.

Borderline Personality Disorder

Index

Criteria
Definition
Treatment ( Psychotherapy )
Treatment ( Pharmacotherapy )

Definition

Borderline Personality Disorder is characterized by a lack of ones own identity, with rapid changes in mood, intense unstable interpersonal relationships, marked impulsively, instability in affect, and instability in self image.

ONSET: Early adulthood and with a variety of contexts.

Diagnostic Criteria ( DSM-IV™ ) made easy.

1. Rapid changes in mood, intense unstable interpersonal relationships, marked impulsively, instability in affect, and instability in self image.

As indicated by at least five of the following:

1. Going to about any lengths to avoid real or imagined abandonment.
2. Intense unstable interpersonal relationships characterized by changing between idealization and devaluation the relationship.
3. Lack of ones own identity. A Marked instability of self image or the sense of self.
4. Impulsively in two or more areas that are self damaging. These may included abuse, sex, spending, eating, driving reckless, or etc.
5. Recurrent gestures, self mutilation, suicidal behavior, or threats.
6. Instability in affect.
7. Marked feelings of emptiness.
8. Frequent displays of anger due to a difficulty in control.
9. Dissociative or paranoid.


41 posted on 11/20/2007 9:00:46 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: DogByte6RER
Miss Lyon became involved with social services in July after a domestic incident involving her former partner.

Gay rights activists will side with her, and baby Molly will be with Mommy and Mommy's new "domestic partners." Violence is just another lifestyle choice.

42 posted on 11/20/2007 9:05:02 PM PST by ValerieTexas
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To: Thinkin' Gal

You really ARE a thinkin’ gal! That scarf is a cover-up, not an accessory. These photos are propaganda for her, not photojournalism.


43 posted on 11/20/2007 9:09:33 PM PST by ValerieTexas
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To: hoosierham

Revolution.


44 posted on 11/20/2007 9:11:15 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: hoosierham
What is the cure for intrusive statist nannyism?

None.

The 'agents' have been brain-washed out of all humanity and reasoning capabilities - You must become a robotron

45 posted on 11/20/2007 9:24:21 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Kozak
Just pointing out that borderlines can’t be cured.

many are misdiagnosed as such - hanging a mill stone around their neck for life...

In the past 30 years, anyone who isn't milk-toast, can easily be diagnosed with any one of a myriad of "borderlines" - it's great for the drug companies and medical communities...and social services who seem to have more "certifiables" employed than most professions.

46 posted on 11/20/2007 9:29:42 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: r9etb
If you're the Child Protection folks, do you take a chance? Not an easy decision.

I sat in on hearings in my state capitol where the state admitted that up to 86% of the families they move against by taking the child out of the home - prove to be unfounded.

Those children have been traumatized, their security in the ability of their parents to protect them in the safety of their home, forever taken away - child abuse, and nothing else.

Their answer to this: "Well, we'd rather err in the name of caution."

So their reasoning is that if they traumatize 86 children out of a hundred totally without foundation - that's okay?

That okay with you?

47 posted on 11/20/2007 9:37:33 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Kozak
There is NO cure for personality disorders. None.

According to my wife the shrink, borderlines often "outgrow" the disorder. That said, borderlines are seriously messed up and make life difficult for everyone around them. People and situations are either completely terrific or totally awful, and the two can switch without notice.

Men: If your new girlfriend has scars from where she has cut herself, don't walk away, run.

48 posted on 11/20/2007 9:43:35 PM PST by poindexter
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To: r9etb
Silly me. I was merely thinking of the baby's safety

If you aren't in state child services, you've missed your calling. You have the mind set. Take a baby away from it's natural mother, away from breast feeding, with absolutely no evidence that this mother has ever harmed a child or will.

If the state makes this an established pattern, there wont be many babies raised by their parents - not everyone fits the mold that the state determines what or who is normal.

I know a young mother with Aspergers. . She's a pain in the neck. She has no seeming awareness of anyone else's rights or thoughts etc...and yet, she is a single mother of an 8 year old - and one of the best and most devoted mothers I know.

Her daughter is happy, healthy, always clean and well dressed, is ahead of her age in reading, writing, verbal skills, etc -= because her mother takes so much time with her.

She has dancing lessons, and many other social outlets. An adorable and well loved little girl.

By your standards, she would have been taken at birth -

49 posted on 11/20/2007 9:49:20 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: r9etb
The media state workers will skew and massage and trim the facts -- or even manufacture them -- so as to fit the desired result. We see it all the time.

It is naivete or socialist mindset?

50 posted on 11/20/2007 9:53:18 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Balding_Eagle
I’m calling it a day, that even here on FR there are some so easily seduced is too depressing.

Totally agree with your whole post - Maybe, just maybe, a few more people will wake up if they finally get Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged" movie made next spring - and if they do it right.

She spells out the baby-steps with which Socialism/Communism takes over a country - all it takes if for most people to be asleep - and the Socialist/Communist personalities will rise up and pull on their jack boots.

For the, I expect, vast majority of people who haven't/wont read 'that BIG book' Atlas Shrugged, many WILL go to the movie - and some, hopefully enough, will then take the blinders off.

Take courage. (These jack-booters have been beaten back before - we can do it again.)

51 posted on 11/20/2007 10:04:09 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Valpal1
Apparently these social workers can’t think their way out of a wet paper sack

First prerequisite for employment

52 posted on 11/20/2007 10:07:09 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: ValerieTexas; Thinkin' Gal
You really ARE a thinkin’ gal! That scarf is a cover-up, not an accessory. These photos are propaganda for her, not photojournalism.

You posted in response to Thinkin' Gal's

The scarf in post 2 looked a little odd to me (just seemed a bit out of place style-wise). Compare the view in post 3. There is some kind of blue band/thing that the scarf is covering up. What did she do to her neck?

You folk = and many others on this thread would really, but really make top-notch nanny-state worker bees. Here's the original poop on the story (and in my world, I hope for people who explore and research a situation before condemning a child to the loss of it's mother)

"Lyon frank about her history.

Lyon, who works for Borderline UK, helping people diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, is frank about her own personal history. She explains that, by 13 or 14, she was “already seriously anorexic” and “was being quite seriously abused”.

By her own account, she was raped by an acquaintance while working as a volunteer in a charity shop and her behaviour became increasingly self-destructive. In addition to her difficulties with eating, she began self-harming by cutting her arms.

To complicate matters further, Lyon says that since the age of 11 she has suffered from angioedema (swelling of the skin) and for the past two years has been fitted with a permanent tracheostomy tube to help her breathe.

At 15, Lyon says she was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and admitted to the Cassel Hospital in Richmond, south London, where she spent a year as an in-patient, followed by nine months as an out-patient. The diagnosis was finally removed when she was 18.

She works for Borderline, the scarf is to cover up a tracheostomy tube, The diagnosis of borderline was finally removed when she was 18.

She mentions the domestic dispute with her partner, in one place, saying "my ex" in another = no where is there any mention of a gay lover, as others here have alluded too - etc etc.

I think I'd trust this gal with my child before some of the personalities I've read in here tonight: "Borderline Nanny-Staters".

have we really gone that far into socialist/communist, nanny-state thinking?

53 posted on 11/20/2007 10:40:59 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: DogByte6RER

BUMP


54 posted on 11/20/2007 10:41:21 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: maine-iac7; ValerieTexas; GovernmentShrinker
You folk = and many others on this thread would really, but really make top-notch nanny-state worker bees.

[Rolling eyes]. What did she do to her neck? Well, apparently nothing. She's got a trache tube. You could have just posted that info without getting all indignant. Talk about being quick to judge.

55 posted on 11/20/2007 11:05:59 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: maine-iac7

The bureaucrats deserve long prison terms for that, ten years or more, but they won’t get it.


56 posted on 11/20/2007 11:07:19 PM PST by darkangel82 (And the band played on....)
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To: maine-iac7

Common sense evaluation is not nanny-stating. You are relying on her own story of what happened ..... uh, that’s a sure path to being made a fool. Use your brain.


57 posted on 11/20/2007 11:08:49 PM PST by ValerieTexas
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To: maine-iac7

This is the battle you choose to fight? Are you with the ACLU?


58 posted on 11/20/2007 11:11:14 PM PST by ValerieTexas
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To: maine-iac7
since the age of 11 she has suffered from angioedema (swelling of the skin)

.....caused by self-poisoning?

59 posted on 11/20/2007 11:17:04 PM PST by ValerieTexas
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To: ValerieTexas

You just proved his point exactly.


60 posted on 11/20/2007 11:18:22 PM PST by darkangel82 (And the band played on....)
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