Posted on 11/17/2007 12:44:57 AM PST by neverdem
No, because part of that equation would be nuclear, coal to liquids, and clean coal, something the leftists wouldn’t like but would help solve our energy dependence, along with biofuels and other forms or renewable energy.
“No, because part of that equation would be nuclear, coal to liquids, and clean coal, something the leftists wouldn’t like but would help solve our energy dependence, along with biofuels and other forms or renewable energy.”
Coal —> Liquids = Carbon Dioxide (not a poison)
Clean Coal = Carbon Dioxide (not a poison, has nothing to do with energy independence)
Biofuels = expensive (not going to happen)
That sounds suspiciously racist! ;)
Nuclear...that’s the solution. What form the atomic energy is transformed into for use in a car is a different question.
You can convert it to hydrogen
You can convert it to ethanol(with the help of corn)
Or you can just use the electricity directly in a battery powered vehicle.
But whatever you do, it all comes back to more atomic energy, in my opinion.
heats up with expansion rather than cooling with expansion
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I think that’s impossible. If it were true then compressing H2 gas into a liquid would absorb heat rather than give off heat. And that just is not possible.
“Black ice = evil
That sounds suspiciously racist! ;)”
I drove truck for 9 years, 2 years with a LTL company based in Denver, CO. UP and OVER, UP and OVER, UP and OVER wolf creek pass sometimes twice a day.
Black Ice is absolute evil.
Heavier grades of fuel oil, asphalt, and tar have a higher BTU/lb rating than does diesel, kerosene, and jet fuel...I think. I’d have to look it up to be 100% certain. But as I remember...as volatility rised, energy content declines.
“Nuclear...that’s the solution. What form the atomic energy is transformed into for use in a car is a different question.
You can convert it to hydrogen
You can convert it to ethanol(with the help of corn)
Or you can just use the electricity directly in a battery powered vehicle.
But whatever you do, it all comes back to more atomic energy, in my opinion.”
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As long as there is a big excise tax on OIL, an ADDITIONAL OVER DEMAND massive electrical power generation (nuclear most probable) to insert into the alternative production, then it is possible to become energy independant.
If you want to manipulate the free market, corporate welfare is exactly the opposite direction to go. If you want to artificially manipulate the free market, only a big excise tax on OIL will work.
All other alternative plan will fail.
I completely agree. Nuclear is the way to go.
Try doing a little research on the subject before you make an assertion like that. Intuition is a poor substitute for knowledge.
Ha!
You are seriously trying to tell me that liquid H2 is a higher energy state than gas? I don’t think I need to research that statement. I suppose if I apply heat to hydrogen gas long enough, it will freeze solid, right? Thanks for the chuckle.
Biofeuls should be considered for nothing other than oxygenates. For that they do great.
We should be going to fuel cells and batteries anyway. Much more efficient.
“Biofeuls should be considered for nothing other than oxygenates. For that they do great.
We should be going to fuel cells and batteries anyway. Much more efficient.”
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How about letting the free market decide.
That's my company's can't-be-hidden agenda!
Well, one thing about it, with oil prices this high it sure makes alot of alternative energy technologies viable.
AS I said go look it up. Careful, your stupidity is showing.
Ok, I’ll let you lead on this one. Give me a link that proves your superiority.
“Well, one thing about it, with oil prices this high it sure makes alot of alternative energy technologies viable.”
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The prospect of oil dropping low again, will keep the smart investors away from throwing capital into alternatives. This is why THE ONLY SOLUTION would be a continuously adjusting excise tax on gasoline and diesel.
And that tax can’t be no wussy tax, i’m talking $5 - $15 per gallon.
So enough all of this tough talk on alternatives, we all know its not going to happen.
Not my job. Look it up, you’ve got a computer. If you want a clue, start by doing a search on the Joule-Thompson effect.
By the way, I apologize for the “stupidity” remark. The properties of hydrogen and helium run counter to what we have been led to believe by our general science classes, so lack of informed opinion would have been a better choice of words. I spent 25 years in chemistry of hydrocarbons and dealt with Hydrogen on a daily basis. No need for me to get snippy.
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