Posted on 11/12/2007 3:53:44 PM PST by mdittmar
Thanx
You’re welcome.
De nada
Bu Shr Dong Xi
Rather
May yo dong xi
TONIGHT’S GLEANINGS FROM ATS:
ATS THREAD:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread322551/pg1
RE:
Russian Security Analysts are reported to be joining Japan’s concerns over a series of ‘mysterious’ events occurring in space which, perhaps, suggests that the planet Mars is being ‘targeted’ by an ‘unknown’ alien spacecraft that has been transiting through our Solar System ‘disguised’ as a comet.
According to these reports, Japan’s Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) has become increasing alarmed over the latest series of photographs beamed back to them from their lunar explorer KAGUYA, and which purportedly have shown a series of ‘missile-like’ launches from our moons dark side and are on a trajectory towards the planet Mars.
So concerned have top Japanese politicians privy to this information become that they have broken the decades old International taboo against World governments mentioning UFO’s to the public with Japan’s chief cabinet secretary, Nobutaka Machimura, stating that “UFO’s do exist”, during a news conference this past week.
Secretary Machimura’s surprising admission where then followed by those of Japan’s Defense Minister, Shigeru Ishiba, voicing his fears that his Self-Defense Forces could not respond to an attack by space aliens while adhering to limits on military action under his country’s war-renouncing Constitution.
Source link:
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1058.htm
[looks like a VERY STRANGE website . . . but this topic is still interesting]
Japanese Fears Raised As ‘Warlike UFO’ Targets Mars
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
Russian Security Analysts are reported to be joining Japan’s concerns over a series of ‘mysterious’ events occurring in space which, perhaps, suggests that the planet Mars is being ‘targeted’ by an ‘unknown’ alien spacecraft that has been transiting through our Solar System ‘disguised’ as a comet.
According to these reports, Japan’s Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) has become increasing alarmed over the latest series of photographs beamed back to them from their lunar explorer KAGUYA, and which purportedly have shown a series of ‘missile-like’ launches from our moons dark side and are on a trajectory towards the planet Mars.
So concerned have top Japanese politicians privy to this information become that they have broken the decades old International taboo against World governments mentioning UFO’s to the public with Japan’s chief cabinet secretary, Nobutaka Machimura, stating that “UFO’s do exist”, during a news conference this past week.
Secretary Machimura’s surprising admission where then followed by those of Japan’s Defense Minister, Shigeru Ishiba, voicing his fears that his Self-Defense Forces could not respond to an attack by space aliens while adhering to limits on military action under his country’s war-renouncing Constitution.
Apparently, these reports detail, US and Japanese space scientists became initially concerned over what is being described as a ‘missing comet’, which is named Boethin and was discovered in 1975, which when NASA began its calculations to have its Deep Impact Spacecraft rendezvous with this comet discovered it had disappeared.
Russian Space Scientists have long noted that Comet Boethin’s ‘strange’ orbiting characteristics, between Jupiter and Earth, have ‘appeared’ as if this comet was ‘deliberately’ attempting to disguise its presence in our Solar System by ‘losing’ itself in the vast Asteroid Belt located between the Jupiter and Mars.
More curious, however, about these events are the new reports coming from the United States Space Agency NASA, and as we can read as reported by the AFP News Service:
“An asteroid hurtling towards Mars has a one in 75 chance of chance of scoring a direct hit on the red planet next month, NASA experts said in a statement Friday.
The US space agency’s Near Earth Object Program (NEOP) revealed that the asteroid’s exact course was difficult to predict, but said it could slam into Mars on January 30, leaving a crater measuring an estimated 1 kilometer across.
If the asteroid, which has been named 2007 WD5, missed Mars as expected it could return to swing past Earth years or decades later, but there was no indication of a threat to the planet, scientists said.
A collision with Mars would be likely to send an enormous dust cloud into the planet’s atmosphere.
The exact path of the asteroid, which was discovered in November by the NASA-funded Catalina Sky Survey near Tucson, Arizona, was becoming increasingly difficult to observe because it was receding from the Earth, scientists said.
The asteroid, believed to measure around 50 meters (160 feet) across, had already passed within 7.5 million kilometers (5 million miles) of Earth in early November.
NEOP scientists at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in La Canada Flintridge in California told the Los Angeles Times they were excited by the possibility of an asteroid striking Mars, describing it as “wildly unusual.”
“We’re used to dealing with odds like one-in-a-million,” said astronomer Steve Chesley. “Something with a one-in-a-hundred chance makes us sit up straight in our chairs.”
What makes this report from NASA most intriguing, though, is that the location from which this asteroid hurtling towards Mars has come from is, also, the last known location of the missing Comet Boethin last seen in the Asteroid Belt, and when this information is coupled with the Japanese reports of the mysterious missile launches from our Moon does raise some serious concerns of what is occurring in our Solar System.
It is, also, interesting to note that American Planetary Scientists are estimating that this asteroid could be targeting the region of Mars where the United States spacecraft Mars Rover Opportunity is now located, and which Russian Space Scientists know well as on March 26, 1989, the Soviet Unions Phobos 2 Mars Satellite, while on a mission around the Red Planet, was ‘attacked’ without warning by what has been described as a ‘massive UFO’ and, presumably, shot down.
Long has it been know, throughout all of our Earth’s history, of our human races’ connection with the War Planet Mars, even to some suggesting that we are indeed descendents from those who once lived on the Red Planet. To the truth of these things there are many opinions, but, what remains the truest is that, once again, our World’s attention is being focused towards the Heavens as our own World continues its deepening plunge towards they abyss.
© December 22, 2007 EU and US all rights reserved.
[Ed. Note: The United States government actively seeks to find, and silence, any and all opinions about the United States except those coming from authorized government and/or affiliated sources, of which we are not one. No interviews are granted and very little personal information is given about our contributors, or their sources, to protect their safety.]
OOOPS hit post when didn’t mean to . . . sorry . . . now for the REST OF THE gleanings.
TONIGHT’S GLEANINGS FROM ATS:
ATS THREAD:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread322551/pg1
RE:
Russian Security Analysts are reported to be joining Japan’s concerns over a series of ‘mysterious’ events occurring in space which, perhaps, suggests that the planet Mars is being ‘targeted’ by an ‘unknown’ alien spacecraft that has been transiting through our Solar System ‘disguised’ as a comet.
According to these reports, Japan’s Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) has become increasing alarmed over the latest series of photographs beamed back to them from their lunar explorer KAGUYA, and which purportedly have shown a series of ‘missile-like’ launches from our moons dark side and are on a trajectory towards the planet Mars.
So concerned have top Japanese politicians privy to this information become that they have broken the decades old International taboo against World governments mentioning UFO’s to the public with Japan’s chief cabinet secretary, Nobutaka Machimura, stating that “UFO’s do exist”, during a news conference this past week.
Secretary Machimura’s surprising admission where then followed by those of Japan’s Defense Minister, Shigeru Ishiba, voicing his fears that his Self-Defense Forces could not respond to an attack by space aliens while adhering to limits on military action under his country’s war-renouncing Constitution.
Source link:
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1058.htm
[looks like a VERY STRANGE website . . . but this topic is still interesting]
Japanese Fears Raised As ‘Warlike UFO’ Targets Mars
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
Russian Security Analysts are reported to be joining Japan’s concerns over a series of ‘mysterious’ events occurring in space which, perhaps, suggests that the planet Mars is being ‘targeted’ by an ‘unknown’ alien spacecraft that has been transiting through our Solar System ‘disguised’ as a comet.
According to these reports, Japan’s Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) has become increasing alarmed over the latest series of photographs beamed back to them from their lunar explorer KAGUYA, and which purportedly have shown a series of ‘missile-like’ launches from our moons dark side and are on a trajectory towards the planet Mars.
So concerned have top Japanese politicians privy to this information become that they have broken the decades old International taboo against World governments mentioning UFO’s to the public with Japan’s chief cabinet secretary, Nobutaka Machimura, stating that “UFO’s do exist”, during a news conference this past week.
Secretary Machimura’s surprising admission where then followed by those of Japan’s Defense Minister, Shigeru Ishiba, voicing his fears that his Self-Defense Forces could not respond to an attack by space aliens while adhering to limits on military action under his country’s war-renouncing Constitution.
Apparently, these reports detail, US and Japanese space scientists became initially concerned over what is being described as a ‘missing comet’, which is named Boethin and was discovered in 1975, which when NASA began its calculations to have its Deep Impact Spacecraft rendezvous with this comet discovered it had disappeared.
Russian Space Scientists have long noted that Comet Boethin’s ‘strange’ orbiting characteristics, between Jupiter and Earth, have ‘appeared’ as if this comet was ‘deliberately’ attempting to disguise its presence in our Solar System by ‘losing’ itself in the vast Asteroid Belt located between the Jupiter and Mars.
More curious, however, about these events are the new reports coming from the United States Space Agency NASA, and as we can read as reported by the AFP News Service:
“An asteroid hurtling towards Mars has a one in 75 chance of chance of scoring a direct hit on the red planet next month, NASA experts said in a statement Friday.
The US space agency’s Near Earth Object Program (NEOP) revealed that the asteroid’s exact course was difficult to predict, but said it could slam into Mars on January 30, leaving a crater measuring an estimated 1 kilometer across.
If the asteroid, which has been named 2007 WD5, missed Mars as expected it could return to swing past Earth years or decades later, but there was no indication of a threat to the planet, scientists said.
A collision with Mars would be likely to send an enormous dust cloud into the planet’s atmosphere.
The exact path of the asteroid, which was discovered in November by the NASA-funded Catalina Sky Survey near Tucson, Arizona, was becoming increasingly difficult to observe because it was receding from the Earth, scientists said.
The asteroid, believed to measure around 50 meters (160 feet) across, had already passed within 7.5 million kilometers (5 million miles) of Earth in early November.
NEOP scientists at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in La Canada Flintridge in California told the Los Angeles Times they were excited by the possibility of an asteroid striking Mars, describing it as “wildly unusual.”
“We’re used to dealing with odds like one-in-a-million,” said astronomer Steve Chesley. “Something with a one-in-a-hundred chance makes us sit up straight in our chairs.”
What makes this report from NASA most intriguing, though, is that the location from which this asteroid hurtling towards Mars has come from is, also, the last known location of the missing Comet Boethin last seen in the Asteroid Belt, and when this information is coupled with the Japanese reports of the mysterious missile launches from our Moon does raise some serious concerns of what is occurring in our Solar System.
It is, also, interesting to note that American Planetary Scientists are estimating that this asteroid could be targeting the region of Mars where the United States spacecraft Mars Rover Opportunity is now located, and which Russian Space Scientists know well as on March 26, 1989, the Soviet Unions Phobos 2 Mars Satellite, while on a mission around the Red Planet, was ‘attacked’ without warning by what has been described as a ‘massive UFO’ and, presumably, shot down.
Long has it been know, throughout all of our Earth’s history, of our human races’ connection with the War Planet Mars, even to some suggesting that we are indeed descendents from those who once lived on the Red Planet. To the truth of these things there are many opinions, but, what remains the truest is that, once again, our World’s attention is being focused towards the Heavens as our own World continues its deepening plunge towards they abyss.
© December 22, 2007 EU and US all rights reserved.
[Ed. Note: The United States government actively seeks to find, and silence, any and all opinions about the United States except those coming from authorized government and/or affiliated sources, of which we are not one. No interviews are granted and very little personal information is given about our contributors, or their sources, to protect their safety.]
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ATS THREAD:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321902/pg1
FIRST POST:
An Unknown Event In 1997.
A very serious event took place in southwest Louisiana between 1997-1999. I was just eleven years old but I still remember the vivid horror which swept through Beauregard Parish. It started on September 15th, 1997 around 9:45pm. A couple headed down Bancroft highway spotted a strange ball of bright orange light following them in the sky. Frightened by its sudden appearance they sped up to 100 miles an hour and the strange kept right up! ten minutes after the chase began the object suddenly streaked ahead of them and vanished in a matter of a few seconds!
Just 15 minutes later at 10:00 I was outside walking my dig one more time befor we went to bed. Suddenly I felt like I was being watched and the dog went violently crazy trying to break free of the leash! I looked up towards the road and a foot above the tree tops sat a glowing ball of light. It made no noise, it hovered in one spot, and it looked as though its outside was spinning into its center, kind of whirlpool like! I ran and got my mom and brother. It then began to move towards us and suddenly slipt into three lights now! No figure could be seen but the formation of the lights suggested a perfect triangle. It came to rest in the woods about football fields distance away from the yard.
With no flames, explosions, or any other noise coming from this thing we suggested it was safer inside asleep now! We called the cops but they swear no plane had been in the vacinity that night!?! The phone call to the police lasted no more than ten minutes. My mom hung up and right then we heard helicopters headed towards the downed aircraft. The next two years were the most frightening of my life that still seriouly haunt me to this very day! All kinds of pulsating sounds could be head coming from the woods, pepole came around the house at night, strange creatures were encounter, two encounters I beleived to be aggressive!
My Brother and me had a face to face encounter with something that I beleive came from that craft we saw. It had glowing red eyes close to those described by mothman witnesses. Very large, perfectly round, hypnotic red eyes that we took for as soething sinister! It shout out of a patch of dense brush and ran towards us. By the time we knew it there it was already a foot or two away! It growled a type of growl I have never heard befor! We ran out of there and told our parents. We all went inside and called it a night! After that it was sighted five more times by four more people in between the years of 1997-1999! It tried to attack another kid through a bathroom window, scared the heck out of a girl out camping with her boyfriend and his friends. She said it looked through her truck window while trying to sleep. My Dad encountered it twice, which in on one encounter he had it growl at him from just inside the woods. He shinned the light but nothing was there. My best friend said it was walking in the back watching him and he about knocked my front door down trying to get inside.
I don’t go in the woods anymore around here be it day or night! I can’t bring myself or anyone else thats see it to go in there either! Its alot more grown up than then so who knows what lay in wait for the right time to jump out on you! It is very clear to me that there are somethings better left alone and in this case its exactly that! I don’t know, don’t want to know, and don’t care to know about it!!! It still shows up every now and then but during the winter or late fall seasons only. If you don’t beleive me then head on down and spend a few nights in the woods around Sabine River, it won’t take long to make a beleiver out of you
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ANCIENT HOPI RE destruction of WORLD/AMERICA
ATS THREAD:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread322568/pg1
first post:
The Hopi cosmology is particularly clear on this point, that the ancient world was destroyed not once, but three times, most recently by a flood. The Hopi also believe that the Grand Canyon was the Sipapu, the “place of emergence” from whence the Hopi had emerged after the Great Flood had destroyed the third “world” of mankind that had preceded the current, or “fourth” world.
Here is their account of the antedeluvian world (preflood)
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Third World had built vast, glittering cities of light that were highly centralized. This was not in conformity with the plans of Taiowa the Creator, who had intended man from the beginning to spread out and live close to the land, which man had indeed originally done in the First World, and had done to a limited extent in the second. In addition, the peoples of the Third World used their sexual powers not for reproduction, but for recreation, making sexual sport with each other to the point where a great prostitute was able to boast about how many men she was able to wrap around her finger. This material girl of the ancient world led mankind down the path of destruction, towards a terrific imbalance that led to a terrible world war.
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DISCLOSURE, YES PLEASE—CONTACT, NO THANKS
ATS THREAD:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread320228/pg1
FIRST POST:
Exopolitics: The Study of the Politics of Extraterrestrial Contact: A Three Star General Speaks Out
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The story in this article is what i believe is the real situation we have with alien life visiting this planet. there is no proof that any of this story is fact......................Yes, i want disclosure as much as any one else. i want the truth to be told. But i dont want any contact with any alien being. What i dont understand is why someone would want to contact an alien that could control thier mind and do bad things to them ? you really have no clue what they would do to you. For me, i think i would try to avoid any contact at all cost wether they were good or bad. I think alot of people that say they want contact dont really know what they would be getting themselves into and at the last minute would chicken out because i think it would scare the you know what out of them. So my question is, could you really trust an alien ?
Source link:
Please click on the link in the ATS thread—the link is a paragraph long bunch of text.
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PEOPLE REACT TO SEEING A CRASHED UFO—HIDDEN CAMERA SHOW
ATS THREAD:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread322554/pg1
UTUBE LINK:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7yaS28MHHZk
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FOIA ACCESS—PUBLIC DOORS BEING CLOSED
ATS THREAD:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread322403/pg1
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ATS THREAD:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread320291/pg1
FOIA: Object caught on tracking camera at Holloman AFB on the 24th of March 1951
PDF LINK:
http://foia.abovetopsecret.com/clifford_stone/NM_1951/MAR_51/NM_MAR_24_1951.pdf
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ATS THREAD:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread322120/pg1
ceo quits job over ufo views
from a very successful company he founded
—QUITS company he founded that’s very successful.
Source link:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1999/01/09/MN19158.DTL
excerpt:
Dr. Robert Wood, a retired aerospace engineer and longtime McDonnell Douglas executive living in Newport Beach, said he has studied the controversial documents and believes that they are real.
Many Silicon Valley scientists and historians scoff at Firmage’s beliefs.
``It’s a joke; if not, then I must be an alien,’’ chortled Narinder Kapany, the Woodside resident who is credited with inventing fiber optics.
``I’ve met a bunch of the valley’s pioneers, and none of them I know are aliens,’’ said John McLaughlin, co-author of ``The Making of Silicon Valley: A One Hundred Year Renaissance’’ and president of the Santa Clara Valley Historical Association. ``The valley was built on ingenuity and hard work.’’
Firmage insists that he is not trying to cash in on the enduring UFO craze. Rather, he has sunk more than $3 million into establishing Project Kairos (after an ancient Greek word meaning ``the right or opportune moment’’) to prepare mankind for aliens.
He also has bought ads in Rolling Stone, the Wall Street Journal, the Economist and other print and online publications to publicize his book.
``There is no money to be made — just to be lost,’’ he said.
Firmage is well aware of a far greater potential loss — his credibility.
``Why would a young, successful CEO risk his reputation on something this fantastic?’’ he asked. ``Because I believe so much in this theory. And I am in a unique position to communicate an extremely important message. I have the money, credibility, scientific grounding and faith.’’
Nonetheless, he said, competitors have attempted to exploit his fantastical theories. ``Our competitors were highlighting this to the media and calling Joe a crackpot,’’ USWeb/CKS board member Gary Rieschel was quoted as saying in one computer trade publication.
Firmage’s situation is eerily similar to a recent plot in the TV show ``Ally McBeal,’’ in which a respected stockbroker is fired from his job after claiming to have seen a unicorn. The broker is reinstated after a judge rules that his beliefs do not interfere with his job performance.
The tightly knit UFO community is dramatically split over Firmage’s book.
``What he has pulled together is quite impressive. I don’t know if it’s true, but it’s worth thinking about,’’ said Bernard Haisch, 49, an astrophysicist and editor of the Journal of Scientific Exploration (www.jse.com).
ceo quits job over ufo views
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SPIRITUAL VS NON-SPIRITUAL ET’S
ATS THREAD:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1999/01/09/MN19158.DTL
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DAT’S ALL FOLKS
TONIGHT’S GLEANINGS FROM ATS below
Actually, I think the volume will be picking up considerably on the topic in the next 18 months if I’m sensing the powers that be’s plans at all correctly . . .
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MOTHERLOAD OF VIDEOS AND DOCS including Stanton Friedman’s best UFO vid . . .
Also NWO topics
It’s really got a ton of stuff, some of it clearly quality.
http://www.funzulu.com/video.php?PID=1
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ATS THREAD:
Iran Received 4 Nuclear Warheads from Kazakhstan in 90’s
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread322765/pg1
I think Pakistan’s nuke guy also told some folks that they gave Iran some nukes some time ago.
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I don’t know if the following is a hoaxed photo, or not. Fascinating, if not.
A Choir of Aliens/Light Beings Photographed on a Rooftop!
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread322805/pg1
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SECRET FARMING TECHNIQUES
Survivalist type stuff—some possibly worthwhile info including on bug-out path stuff.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread322052/pg1
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OOOOPS, Hit post too quick . . . let me see if there’s anything else . . .
UNKNOWN OBJECT IN MARTIAN SKY:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread322824/pg1
SOURCE PIC:
http://www.informantnews.com/starshipgamma/gallery/gallery/roverufo.html
may be speck of dust on lens???
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INVISIBLE HELICOPTER from google earth ????
OP found scene with a helicopter clearly visible and it’s accompanying shadow as should be . . . WITH . . . in the same pic . . . another shadow of clearly a different helicopter . . . but the copter is NOT visible.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread317409/pg1
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NUCLEAR TERROR IMMINENT?
Iran etc.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread319428/pg1
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DAT’S ALL FOLKS
IF
these gleanings are of interest to you—I’d appreciate knowing if it’s worth the bother . . . either in the thread or by FREEPMAIL.
I’ll likely continue to do it . . . but the frequency and quality might at times depend on how many find it interesting/useful.
Blessings in the New Year.
The only Americans who panic about that sort of news are in movies. That is a phony excuse.
That might explain a lot of the BS our politicians dish us regularly, and the oh so wonderful ideas they come up with.
TONIGHT’S GLEANINGS FROM ATS:
I had more but my system crashed and they scrolled by and I didn’t care to go dig them out . . .
ATS thread:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread323291/pg1
Bhutto Killed=Pakistan Chaos=Nuke Hunt=Iran War
This thread has a lot of acclaim of the ATS members. Haven’t read it but it looks interesting. Sounds sobering.
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Related thread:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread323380/pg1
video link of interview with the late Buhto
Bhutto names the Man who murdered Osama Bin Laden!!?
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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread323209/pg1
MYSTERIOUS Structures found near Pyramids Could Hold Secrets to Construction
ariel/space photo
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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread323341/pg1
ATS THREAD:
The Common Perception of Aliens
Should be perceptionS of Aliens. A diversity of comments.
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Dat’s all folks.
enjoy.
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Forgot to ping All
more ATS gleanings . . .
ATS THREAD:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread323196/pg1
Radio show Guest Predicts January Thru May 2008 Brotherhood of Light Contacts World Govenment
CURIOUS CLAIMS . . .
On my show last Sunday the Cosmic Eye I had a guest that was on Coast to Coast recently who near the end of our program stated that there would be direct contact the World Government between anywhere between January 2008 up till May 2008 timeframe.
The Contact according to the guest was the Brotherhood of Light unrelated to anything or any one on Earth .
For those who do not know what or who the Brotherhood of Light are they represent the Spiritual Ets from the highest levels of Love and Understanding.
They are according to the information going to be the ones to bring the reality of there existance to the Planet.
As a host Cosmic Eye I did not expect this announcement but will be having the guest back in the new year for updates and if this happens you will know about this first hand on the show
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ATS thread:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread323417/pg1
Will we ever live on another planet?
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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread285309/pg1
ATS thread
Japan Unveils New Prototypes
The prototypes for the C-X and P-X aircraft were unveiled in Japan. They are getting closer to the first flights for both aircraft.
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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread323127/pg1
ATS thread
VIMANAS - Ancient Hindu Flying Vehicles ans Weapons.
Excellent information www.hinduwisdom.info...
In the Vedic literature of India, there are many descriptions of flying machines that are generally called Vimanas. India’s national epic, The Mahabharata, is a poem of vast length and complexity. According to Dr. Vyacheslav Zaitsev: “the holy Indian Sages, the Ramayana for one, tell of “Two storied celestial chariots with many windows” “They roar like off into the sky until they appear like comets.” The Mahabharata and various Sanskrit books describe at length these chariots, “powered by winged lighting...it was a ship that soared into the air, flying to both the solar and stellar regions.”
[ats]http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7730/stupa3ns3.jpg[ats]
There is a just a mass of fascinating information about flying machines, even fantastic science fiction weapons, that can be found in translations of the Vedas (scriptures), Indian epics, and other ancient Sanskrit text.
There are no physical remains of ancient Indian aircraft technology but references to ancient flying machines are commonplace in the ancient Indian texts. Several popular ancient epics describe their use in warfare. Depending on one’s point of view, either it contains some of the earliest known science fiction, or it records conflict between beings with weapons as powerful and advanced as anything used today.
Above all we need to remember: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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DATS ALL FOR NOW.
Have a fun weekend.
:o)
Why did Frost not react? If it was a slip of the tongue where is the correction?
Someone needs to dig more into it.
How about a separate thread for that video and some FReepanalysis of it?
That video of Bhutto and what she says needs to get more blog attention.
Why did Frost not react? If it was a slip of the tongue where is the correction?
Someone needs to dig more into it.
How about a separate thread for that video and some FReepanalysis of it?
= = =
AGREED.
Go for it.
If I did it, it would risk being plagued with naysayers much more so, than if you did it.
I think it’s convincing. But I’m too much of a lightening rod for naysayer strikes for me to start it.
Thanks for your kind words. ‘Sorry’ to have cost you so much daylight hours!
That could be a real problem if you’re in Alaska!
PS - Just got a old copy of Dreamland at Walmart for a $1. Going to watch it tonight.
Saw a FReepers post about it in a passing thread one time and have been looking for it.
Have you seen it or any thoughts about it?
1996 production I think and its a "documentary" for whatever that term is worth.
Seems like I did see it. Don’t recall about it.
They all mush together after studying the topic for 45+ years.
Thanks tons.
later,
ATS GLEANINGS for the evening:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread319905/pg1
Pole Shift theory and planet X
ATS thread
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END TIMES
ATS THREAD:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread320966/pg1
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REAL UFO SIGHTINGS discussion ATS THREAD
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread323894/pg1
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QUESTIONS FOR JOHN LEAR . . . father invented Lear Jet. Lots of well placed connections . . . some fantastical claims that he can’t say for certain are true or not, though he believes them.
ATS thread:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread215767/pg1
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NATIONAL PRESS CLUB UFO CONFERENCE VID
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread323496/pg1
Complete 1 Hr Video Of Nov 12 NPC UFO Conference**
VIEW AT THIS LINK:
http://realufos.blogspot.com/2007/12/complete-video-of-national-press-club.html
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UNDERGROUND TUNNELS AND MILITARY FACILITIES IN AUSTRALIA
ATS THREAD:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread4092/pg1
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ENOUGH.
DAT’S ALL FOLKS.
Cheers!
ATS GLEANINGS . . .
SUNKEN CIV you may be interested in the comet story several items down
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SUPPOSED MILE WIDE UFO FOOTAGE
ATS THREAD:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread324445/pg1
source link:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e98_1199152423
Interesting video . . . whether hoax or not, it certainly behaves and is the size of many sightings by many reliable witnesses.
Some fault the trees not moving that close to a mile wide UFO. I don’t know if their special means of propulasion would effect that, or not. There have been reports of lack of such wind effects as a startling part of sightings.
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ATS THREAD:
“ECONOMY SINKING; GOVERNMENT KNOWS; GIVING BAD INFO”
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321395/pg1
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ATS THREAD:
YOUR THOUGHTS CAN’T DIE ACCORDING TO PHYSICS
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread324245/pg1
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ATS THREAD:
ALIEN (ET) CONTACT STARTING TO HAPPEN—SLOWLY
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread324381/pg1
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ATS THREAD
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread324406/pg1
FASCINATING NARRATIVE. I don’t find anything contrary to Scripture or current and recent historical realities off the top of my head . . . narrative about satan leading the globalist, socialist NWO etc.
Seems to be at least mostly on target with what I know and believe.
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ATS THREAD
SPECIAL FORCES ON STANDBY RE NUCLEAR THREAT (PAKISTAN)
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread324152/pg1
SOURCE
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ATS THREAD
Deep Impact’s 2nd Target Anomaly or What Happened to Comet 85P/Boethin?
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread324120/pg1
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ATS THREAD
AMAZING UFO REPTILIAN SCOUT SHIPS.
Pics seem . . . too something to be true but . . . interesting, after a fashion, nevertheless. And then there are the stories . . . all disinformation?
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread324242/pg1
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ATS THREAD
Interesting prediction regarding 2012, Artic melt
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread320487/pg1
This week, after reviewing his own new data, NASA climate scientist Jay Zwally said: “At this rate, the Arctic Ocean could be nearly ice-free at the end of summer by 2012, much faster than previous predictions.” “ - AOL news.
FROM
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/accelerating-arctic-melt-worries-experts/20071211220409990001
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ATS THREAD
THE RADICALIZATION OF AMERICA
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread324349/pg1
Interesting pondering, imho—a good essay, interesting conjectures . . .
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ATS THREAD
NEW AIRCRAFT CARRIERS, NEXT GENERATION PICS/DRAWINGS
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread324255/pg1
FROM
A STEALTH CARRIER???!!! SUMBERSIBLE???
INTERESTING PIC ANYWAY.
READS LIKE PART OF A NOVEL WHICH IT LIKELY IS.
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Thanks Quix, here’s a digest of those links:
COMET HONDA TO IMPACT EARTH 2011??? ATS THREAD:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread236133/pg1
SOLAR SYSTEM VIEWER LINK:
NOTE: CLICK COMETS ON RIGHT LOWER EDGE OF VIEWER WINDOW . . . AND WAIT . . . TAKES SOME TIME TO GET TO 2011. FASCINATING. HONDA ‘NEARLY’ HITS IN 2006.
IN ILLUSTRATION, Honda clearly appears to go through center of earth dot.
http://janus.astro.umd.edu/javadir/orbits/ssv.html
Deep Impact’s 2nd Target Anomaly or What Happened to Comet 85P/Boethin?
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread324120/pg1
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