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High court to look at ban on handguns
McClatchy-Tribune ^ | Nov. 9, 2007, 12:18AM | MICHAEL DOYLE

Posted on 11/09/2007 3:17:09 AM PST by cbkaty

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To: publiusF27
Scalia said nothing about § 311 or the composition of the militia

He said militia membership had nothing to do with the right to keep and bear arm. Your "Crips are militia" theory of gun rights is now both absurd and meaningless.

Poor you.

1,461 posted on 06/29/2008 6:13:40 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
Does the second amendment apply to Crips in Chicago?
1,462 posted on 06/29/2008 6:17:21 PM PDT by publiusF27
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To: Mojave

Back to the Crips again. I’m sorry, but you seem to be stuck on stupid.


1,463 posted on 06/29/2008 6:28:38 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse
you seem to be stuck on stupid.

I admit enjoying your "Crips" stupidity.

1,464 posted on 06/29/2008 6:44:50 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: publiusF27

The 2nd Amendment applies to and restricts the federal government.

Read a book.


1,465 posted on 06/29/2008 6:46:21 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
You brought up the Crips. It was your assertion that they are a "militia".

Just weird. I think reading Scalia's ruling has completely unhinged what was left of your mind...

1,466 posted on 06/29/2008 7:10:38 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Mojave
Art 6 para 2. "laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding".

Poor you...

1,467 posted on 06/29/2008 7:12:10 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse
Art 6 para 2. "laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding".

Which has nothing to do with the Bill of Rights.

Nice foot shot!

1,468 posted on 06/29/2008 7:27:15 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Dead Corpse
It was your assertion that they are a "militia".

Backwards. But what else is new?

1,469 posted on 06/29/2008 7:28:03 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Held: 1. The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. Pp. 2–53.

Does the federal government have individual rights? Do Crips in Chicago?


1,470 posted on 06/29/2008 7:38:00 PM PDT by publiusF27
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To: publiusF27
Does the federal government have individual rights?

Do you have multiple individual voices in your head?

The 2nd Amendment restricts the federal government. It did not create the right protected.

Read a book.

1,471 posted on 06/29/2008 8:40:48 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

But none of that answers the question. I don’t care about where the right came from, nor who it restricts. I just want to know if you think it applies to Crips in Chicago, or is the 2a like § 311, having some secret exemption for Crips?


1,472 posted on 06/30/2008 3:20:52 AM PDT by publiusF27
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To: publiusF27
I don’t care about where the right came from

It doesn't come from the Crips imaginary militia membership, your inane claim to the contrary notwithstanding.

Try to take your defeat like a man.

1,473 posted on 06/30/2008 3:27:02 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

1. You made the claim twice that militia membership was relevant to gun rights, I made it zero times, so it’s your cross to bear, not mine.

2. Your favorite question, in case you’ve forgotten, is now irrelevant, and we’ve moved on to a new one:

Do Crips have 2nd amendment rights, or not? Why are you afraid to just answer yes or no?


1,474 posted on 06/30/2008 3:34:51 AM PDT by publiusF27
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To: Mojave
There goes females and anyone over 45.

Care to explain what you meant by that comment at post 1307?

(Oops, looks like another example of your silly claim that militia membership affects 2a rights, unless you have some other explanation. Poor you. LOL)
1,475 posted on 06/30/2008 4:11:07 AM PDT by publiusF27
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To: Mojave
Which has everything to do with the Bill of Rights.

CONGRESS of the UNITED STATES,

Begun and held at the City of New-York, on Wednesday, the
Fourth of March, One Thousand Seven Hundred Eighty-nine.

The Conventions of a Number of the States having at the Time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a Desire, in Order to prevent Misconstruction or Abuse of its Powers, that further declaratory and restrictive Clauses should be added: And as extending the Ground of public Confidence in the Government will best insure the beneficent Ends of its Institution,
RESOLVED, by the Senate, and House of Representatives, of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, Two Thirds of both Houses concurring, That the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States as Amendments to the Constitution of the United States: All, or any of, which Articles, when ratified by Three-Fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all Intents and Purposes as Part of the said Constitution, viz.

ARTICLES in Addition to, and Amendment of, the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the Fifth Article of the original Constitution.

Yer' still stupid after all of these years Roscoe. You'd think you would at least remember this one. I've used it how many times in exactly this conversation? The BoR "applied" as part of the "Supreme Law of the Land" as soon as it was passed by Congress and ratified by the States.

1,476 posted on 06/30/2008 5:30:16 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Mojave
Own it, don't run from it. I have NEVER asserted that criminal gangs are militia.

You are acting like a child willfully denying reality.

1,477 posted on 06/30/2008 5:31:17 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse
You are acting like a child willfully denying reality.

Don't you dare ruin my fun by making him stop! ;-)
1,478 posted on 06/30/2008 9:09:05 AM PDT by publiusF27
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To: publiusF27

There comes a time in every conversation when poking the troll with a stick naturally morphs into wanting to beat him with a baseball bat.


1,479 posted on 06/30/2008 9:24:14 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse

I think we’ve finally encountered the previously only theoretical “anti-truth” which is analogous to anti-matter.

If one of his anti-truth arguments comes into contact with the truth, there will be a massive explosion of logic and nothing in the world will make sense any more.


1,480 posted on 06/30/2008 2:44:32 PM PDT by publiusF27
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