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Fred Thompson Is Finished
aim.org ^ | November 7, 2007 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 11/07/2007 7:41:35 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Qwinn; Tailgunner Joe
TJ is an absolutist. No process, no stopping to let the people decide. He wants that Amendment, and now.

Unfortunately, that process will never be allowed to take place. Too many special interests will keep thier liberals in line to have an Amendment pass.

The process of overturning R v W with good judges on the SCOTUS and returning the issue to the state is the lawful and faster path to resiolution.

The proper case in front of SCOTUS to overturn RvW, stifles the issue and returns it to the state law in place BEFORE RvW was instituted. That means more babies will not be aborted.

That gives the PEOPLE the opportunity to vote on it, and the pro-life groups can garner more LOCAL control over the vote than they can in the FEDERAL system.

Any other push Federally is a waste of time. It is far easier to modify existing STATE law over a period of time than it is to make new or change any Federal law.

This simpole fundamental of State vs Federal control is lost on too many people.

121 posted on 11/07/2007 8:47:26 PM PST by Pistolshot (As long as you are waterboarding with pigfat, I'm all for it - PS)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

There are higher laws than the laws of men.


122 posted on 11/07/2007 8:48:02 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Star Traveler
Well, for one, a family has no right to murder someone.

When I married my husband, I gave him the right to make end of life decisions for me, if I am unable.

I CHOSE him. The rest of you can stay out of it. I do not want my parents, FReepers, or the State second guessing MY decision.

Michael may very well have been responsible for Terri's condition. But it could not be proven. That is a terrible shame, but the world is an imperfect place.

123 posted on 11/07/2007 8:48:12 PM PST by Dianna
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"I do not think it is a wise thing to criminalize young girls and perhaps their parents as aiders and abettors or perhaps their family physician." - Fred Thompson

If you have someone that wants to put young girls and their parents in jail,etc. Who is it and where is the quote. That they are going to do that.

124 posted on 11/07/2007 8:48:48 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

You said — “There is nothing in the Constitution which requires states to make murder a crime.”

Huh??!!

Whatever happened to — “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, ... “

LOL! You must have misplace that somewhere in your pile of papers....

Regards,
Star Traveler


125 posted on 11/07/2007 8:48:57 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Why would you assume I was banned?


126 posted on 11/07/2007 8:49:21 PM PST by Hillary4Penetentiary ("I hope Hillary is elected" Ala Senakreh, West Bank chief of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So where did Fred say he ‘doesn’t want abortion to be a crime.’ I take it that you want the millions of women who have had abortions to go to prison? If that is what you want, you have no chance at all of ever seeing that happen.


127 posted on 11/07/2007 8:49:21 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Ron Paul Criminality: http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2007/10/paul_bot)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
If the voters follow your scenario and elect a president that has no understanding of the Constitution that he is sworn to uphold, it really won’t be much different than what we’ve seen since 1932.
128 posted on 11/07/2007 8:49:35 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Star Traveler
Whatever happened to — “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, ... “

I'm confused, I know it's late and all.

Where does that appear in the Constitution?

129 posted on 11/07/2007 8:49:58 PM PST by Petronski ("Willard, you can’t buy South Carolina. You can’t even rent it.”)
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To: Hillary4Penetentiary
Why would you assume I was banned?

Because you post like a veteran Freeper, and have been a member for 3 days.

130 posted on 11/07/2007 8:50:45 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Ron Paul Criminality: http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2007/10/paul_bot)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

The Constitution is the document for that newly-formed government to protect those rights and to put the force of law to it...

My, my, you sure have gotten things upside-down... LOL!

Regards,
Star Traveler


131 posted on 11/07/2007 8:52:12 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Tailgunner Joe
There are higher laws than the laws of men.

Not in our courts.

132 posted on 11/07/2007 8:52:34 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Ron Paul Criminality: http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2007/10/paul_bot)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

The Constitution already forbids ex post facto laws, so of course nobody has proposed prosecuting women who had abortions while it was legal. The pro-life movement is about making abortion illegal, and enforcing the law against any who break it once the law has been changed.


133 posted on 11/07/2007 8:53:03 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

“Because you post like a veteran Freeper, and have been a member for 3 days.”

I’ve just posted on a lot of different blogs and political sites, including Politico and on Hannity’s boards among others, so it’s not exactly new to me. In addition, I write a lot of letters to the editors, debate politics in chatrooms and via e-mail with others.


134 posted on 11/07/2007 8:53:16 PM PST by Hillary4Penetentiary ("I hope Hillary is elected" Ala Senakreh, West Bank chief of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...

Announcement nay be premature.


135 posted on 11/07/2007 8:53:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, October 22, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: RockinRight

I have given up trying to reason with people who are fixated on the loony notion that the Declaration of Independence is a jurisprudential document in our legal system.

In fact, the Declaration ranks somewhere below the Federalist Papers.

While the Declaration of Independence is unquestionably the most eloquent statement of the basis for human freedom ever penned, it’s not the law.


136 posted on 11/07/2007 8:53:57 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: kaycee
I’m turning Fox off more and more

I do it when "Campaign" Carl Cameron comes on.
137 posted on 11/07/2007 8:54:22 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Star Traveler
LOL! You must have misplace that somewhere in your pile of papers....

I said that there nothing in the Constitution that requires the states to make murder illegal. The Declaration of Independence, which you quoted is NOT in the Constitution and is a legal nullity.

138 posted on 11/07/2007 8:55:41 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Ron Paul Criminality: http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2007/10/paul_bot)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

New character name for the elections. Not necessarily a return banned player.


139 posted on 11/07/2007 8:55:53 PM PST by Pistolshot (As long as you are waterboarding with pigfat, I'm all for it - PS)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The pro-life movement is about making abortion illegal, and enforcing the law against any who break it once the law has been changed.

And the day that happens there will be a medical ship just off the coast in international water.

140 posted on 11/07/2007 8:58:12 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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