Posted on 11/02/2007 12:22:55 PM PDT by ckilmer
He had two codenames. The other [either before or after “Liberal”] was “Engineer”. Greenglass was Ethel’s brother, or brother-in-law.
Bump for later read...
“... Ethyl was truly innocent ...”
Please read posts 14 and 16.
Ignore this man behind the iron curtain, he didn’t exist, they were never spies. (Sarcasism off)
Handler? You mean to tell me that they were actual spies, putting the lives of millions of Americans at risk? Why thats not what liberals and the NY Slimes says.
That is very interesting.
Were you a Red Diaper Baby by chance like your co-author?
“The Soviet archives exonerated Ethyl as well. Julius was as guilty as sin, but Ethyl was truly innocent when sent to her death.”
Fortunately, we have accounts from others involved that put Ethyl squarely involved in the espionage. I would trust facts from the Venona intercepts. I would hesitate to use offerings from Soviet spies standing alone. These men were extremely dedicated and one needs to consider there versions as possibly being cover stories.
The "handed over secrets on military electronics, but not the atomic bomb" means to some liberals (that will admit even that much) that the Rosenbergs were not guilty of treason. Of course the atomic bomb is just one of a multitude of military secrets so obviously the Rosenbergs were guilty of treason. And the fact that Ethel didn't procure or exchange information (I believe that was the case) does not exonerate her from the reality that she knew all about her husband's doings and gave material support on a personal/local level.
I’m going to presume that you are Joyce Milton. If so- Howdy!
I’ve been meaning to read your book so I ‘ve put it on my list.
If I remember correctly your co-author, Mr. Radosh, had intially believed the Rosenbergs innocent and planned to show so to his satisfaction. Then during the course of his research he learned the truth of their activities and the revelation was a political/reality epiphany. Very similar to David Horowitz in upbringing and eventual enlightenment. I believe it was an interview or article on Horowitz’s Front Page Mag where I read of Radosh’s crash with reality.
Anyhow, nice to meet you in a cyber sense.
Thanks for the ping. The Rosenbergs were born too early. Treason is now politically correct.
Interesting thread to read.
Treason, it’s the new black.
They weren't convicted of treason. Just espionage. They re the only two Americans ever executed for espionage in peacetime; if it the prosecution had the information then that we have now, they would still have been convicted, but I doubt they would have gotten the death penalty.
“Feklisov died Oct. 26, said Sergei Ivanov, a spokesman for the Foreign Intelligence Service, one of the successor agencies to the KGB. He gave no cause of death.”
Gave no cause of death? Could it have been a bullet to the back of the head in the basement of the Lubyanka?
Do they still do that? Just wondering.
In a conspiracy, every participant in the conspiracy is as guilty as the one who actually commits the act.
Ethel recruited her own brother for Julius’ spy ring, and Ethel typed up Julius’ notes that were handed over to the Socviet agent.
Had she cooperated with the FBI, her life would have been spared. They were pressuring her to get to Julius, and the other members of his spy ring. She was proudly defiant and refused, even when faced with the gloomy future of her two little boys.
A woman who loved Stalin more than she loved her own children and her own country.
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