Mitt Romney is a Mormon and I am a Baptist: Get Over It!

North Star Writers Group ^ | October 29, 2007 | Herman Cain

[colorcountry]

No blessings from you tonight, eh?

[Old Mountain man]

Bless you!

Better?

[colorcountry]

:-)

[Reno232]

You’re right, usually we’re encouraged to read positive & uplifting works that lead to truth. From time to time though, we’re called upon by circumstances to rebut false & misleading claims by our detractors, the drive-by’s. Fortunately, most of my time is spent studying much more enjoyable & uplifting works that feed the soul. Have a great evening Colorcountry.

[ComeUpHigher]

Whatever you say. The original post where you openly manifested your willingness to discriminate against the Mormon speaks for itself. COLD HARD FACT, SISTER.

[ComeUpHigher]

I agree. He would be ashamed of: (1) your “lying for the Lord;” and (2) your anti-Mormon rants.

P.S. I suggest before you challenge my legal education, that you have a firm understanding of whatever legal principle you intend to assert.

[MHGinTN]

I recall that thread ... the conflict where CUH attacked you so haughtily was generated when you said you have a right to not vote for a particular candidate based upon his or her religious beliefs, especially since you are in private in a voting booth. The Romney/Mormonism attack mongrel twisted the initial into an argument over your method of discernment when interviewing someone for a job. I think the perp has suckered you into the same diversion, so just ignore the mouth foaming lawyer.

[ComeUpHigher]

Continuing your pharisaical conduct, Caiph . . .er, MHG?

[MHGinTN]

How you tonight, Shylock?

[restornu]

You must be a 15 watt now!

[ComeUpHigher]

LOL. They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, Caiaph . . .er, MHG.

I guess I should be flattered except you muffed your comeback line. I am not a shylock. You need to read up on your Shakespeare. Shylock was a character in the Merchant of Venice. However, rather than being a lawyer, Shylock was a moneylender who charged usurious rates of interest. In the modern vernacular, he was a loan shark. Hence, the word shylock in a dictionary is defined as a ruthless moneylender or loan shark.

I’m sure you meant to be really witty with your comeback line by calling me Shyster which is defined in the dictionary as an unethical or unscrupulous lawyer. But, of course, that would have fallen flat as well because I am neither unethical or unscrupulous. I think those adjectives are better used to describe the “flying inman” posse, don’t you?

[MHGinTN]

I tend to define a Shylock as a ruthless, haughty person of low character. You can use the WS designation as far as you care to take it ... I have no idea whether you lend money as usurious rates.

[Grig]

“Do you care to address to higher than average suicide rate among Mormons or the higher than average anti-depressant usage among Mormons?”

I’m familiar with the study you critics use as a basis for claiming Mormons use anti-depressant more than the average. It doesn’t actually conclude what you assert.

The study was done by a health insurance company, they only looked at their customers and noted their customers in Utah used certain prescriptions at a higher rate than their customers in other states.

I’ve studied statistics at the university level, and how critics use this study is such a blatant example of how to lie with statistics that a first year student should have no trouble spotting how invalid the media’s conclusions are.

First, they did not sample the general population, they only looked at their own customers. The products they offered would greatly impact who their customer base would be, for example, if priced high, their customers would tend to wealthier than average, if they did not offer a competitive discount for non-smokers, their customer base would have more smokers than the general population etc. etc. On this fact alone it is invalid to conclude that the study’s results for Utah has any relation to actual rates in the general population of the state. Likewise, the results of other states and the national averages from the study have no bearing on the actual state or national averages.

Second, the study did not identify the religion of their customers. There is no way to tell if any particular faith is over or under represented compared to the general population or even just their own customer base, so there is no justification to extrapolate the results as indicating anything about Mormons or any other faith.

Third, several medication used to treat depression are also used to treat other medical conditions and the study gathered no data on WHY those prescriptions were given. It is therefore invalid to assert that the high use of certain drugs indicates a high occurrence of depression.

To be fair, the LA Times (known for it’s bias against the LDS) reported the study in a very biased and misleading way, leading it readers to make all this invalid conclusions and burying the facts that discredit their claims towards the end of the article. Critics, if they want to be honest critics, should not be so quick to jump on drive-by media stories just because they like what they say.

I am not aware of any credible studies that establish a significantly higher rate of suicide among active Mormons, but feel free to present your evidence for examination. Even if such a study exists, it still wouldn’t establish a cause/effect relationship. Very little is really known about what causes mental illness, there could be genetic factors at play, environmental, and many other factors that a statistical survey would not be able to take into account.

[ComeUpHigher]

Well, I guess if you want to fabricate your own definition of shylock to save you from looking silly, I guess you can, but, personally, I think it only makes you look even more silly.

You ought to just man up to blowing the comeback line. Denial is not a river in Egypt, Caiaph . . . er, MHG. And again, thank you for the imitation. It shows you either really care or just lack creativity for your own snappy comeback. I'll let the readers decide which it is.

[MHGinTN]

Shylock is capitalized, usually. But in your case, I can see why you failed to do it ... projectionists are usually blind to their own condition.

[DelphiUser]

Too, I love a good Baptist joke, but usually they include casseroles. ;o)

We do those, and Jello, especially gree with shaved carrots, although I 've only seen tat once and it was for a joke.

Here are some jopkes for all to enjoy...

Bloopers in the church

The following are actual church bulletin board bloopers found in churches across the United States.

Scouts are saving aluminum cans, bottles, and other items to be recycled. Proceeds will be used to cripple children.

The outreach committee has enlisted 25 visitors to make calls on people who are not afflicted with any church.

Evening massage - 6 p.m.

The Pastor would appreciate it if the ladies of the congregation would lend him their electric girdles for the pancake breakfast next Sunday morning.

The audience is asked to remain seated until the end of the recession.

Low Self-Esteem Support Group will meet Thursday at 7 to 8:30 p.m. Please use the back door.

Ushers will eat latecomers.

The third verse of Blessed Assurance will be sung without musical accomplishment.

For those of you who have children and don't know it, we have a nursery downstairs.

The Rev. Merriwether spoke briefly, much to the delight of the audience.

The pastor will preach his farewell message, after which the choir will sing, "Break Forth Into Joy."

During the absence of our pastor, we enjoyed the rare privilege of hearing a good sermon when J.F. Stubbs supplied our pulpit.

Next Sunday Mrs. Vinson will be soloist for the morning service. The pastor will then speak on "It's a Terrible Experience."

Due to the Rector's illness, Wednesday's healing services will be discontinued until further notice.

Stewardship Offertory: "Jesus Paid It All"

The music for today's service was all composed by George Friedrich Handel in celebration of the 300th anniversary of his birth.

Remember in prayer the many who are sick of our church and community.

The eighth-graders will be presenting Shakespeare's Hamlet in the church basement on Friday at 7 p.m. The congregation is invited to attend this tragedy.

The concert held in Fellowship Hall was a great success. Special thanks are due to the minister's daughter, who labored the whole evening at the piano, which as usual fell upon her.

Twenty-two members were present at the church meeting held at the home of Mrs. Marsha Crutchfield last evening. Mrs. Crutchfield and Mrs. Rankin sang a duet, The Lord Knows Why.

A song fest was hell at the Methodist church Wednesday.

Today's Sermon: HOW MUCH CAN A MAN DRINK? with hymns from a full choir.

Hymn 43: "Great God, what do I see here?" Preacher: The Rev. Horace Blodgett

Hymn 47: "Hark! An awful voice is sounding"

On a church bulletin during the minister's illness: GOD IS GOOD Dr. Hargreaves is better.

Potluck supper: Prayer and medication to follow.

Don't let worry kill you off - let the church help.

The 1997 Spring Council Retreat will be hell May 10 and 11.

Pastor is on vacation. Massages can be given to church secretary.

(From Here)

[ComeUpHigher]

Bzzzzt. Wrong again. Are you “lying for the Lord” to save face or do you not know that “shylock” has a modern vernacular? Unless I was specifically referring to the character in the Merchant of Venice, which I wasn’t, the word shylock isn’t capitalized when used in a sentence to describe a loan shark or ruthless moneylender.

It is simply amazing how consistently wrong you are—on so many, many levels, Caiaph . . .er, MHG.

[DelphiUser]

Is poor spellin funny?

[Bobbisox]

And another RINO is another RINO! Morman has nothing to do with it. Immigration will be the downfall of Mitt, Rudy, McCain and Huckabee. Watch and see!

[DelphiUser]

And another RINO is another RINO! Morman has nothing to do with it. Immigration will be the downfall of Mitt, Rudy, McCain and Huckabee. Watch and see!

Fred Thompson on illegal immigration from before he announced
And I am posting this one because I can just picture this kind of message from our president on a weekly basis.