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FBI raid shutters Medicare insurer (WellCare - formerly owned by George Soros)
St. Petersburg Times ^ | 10/25/07 | Kris Hundley

Posted on 10/25/2007 7:52:37 AM PDT by wagglebee

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To: Sun; 8mmMauser
MSM kept telling the lie, that Terri was PVS, when he was NOT. I heard it every hour, or more, on the radio.

A lot of them tried to advance the lie that Terri was "brain dead" and more than a few FReepers (thankfully most have been banned) repeated it here along with the lie that her brain had turned to "mush" (all the while they were unable to grasp the FACT that two weeks without hydration is certain to have a negative effect on brain matter).

421 posted on 11/26/2007 5:12:38 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

And 100% of the time, a deceased person will be blind and have a flat eeg. George Stupidopolous omitted that his latest info was frm the autopsy. The MSM knows a large segment of the population will believe anything they see on tv,whether’s it’s Jerry Springer or Keith Olbermann.


422 posted on 11/26/2007 5:39:18 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: 8mmMauser

If an accident victim in a coma is at the VA, will the VA file a lien against Hulk Hogan’s insurance, etc.? I don’t know how the VA handles accident cases.


423 posted on 11/26/2007 5:44:47 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: wagglebee

“they were unable to grasp the FACT that two weeks without hydration is certain to have a negative effect on brain matter).”

And even after Terri supporters throughly explained to them the truth, it was too late, because they were already BRAINWASHED. How very sad.


424 posted on 11/26/2007 10:09:39 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Sun; floriduh voter

“He who stoops to conquer conquers stupes...” Pogo, as I recall.

If Terri’s Legacy were not such a threat to them, they, MSM, would start to ignore it by now. They haven’t so I guess they fear Terri.


425 posted on 11/27/2007 3:57:00 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: wagglebee

What I said above...


426 posted on 11/27/2007 3:58:16 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Fred and Terri tar baby dailies....

This topic has moved into the realm of a Class A propaganda piece like some other anti-Terri mantras. More of same, but still echoing the refrain, the MSM saw the potential of this gaffe from the very beginning and will not let go. Contribution today comes from the Oregonian, a paper I once found useful for starting campfires.

Abortion: Says he doesn't support a constitutional amendment outlawing abortion and has called the Terri Schiavo right-to-die case a family matter. Even so, he has won the endorsement of the National Right to Life Committee, an anti-abortion group. Says: "I would never support anything that supported or encouraged abortion."

Thompson: On the issues

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427 posted on 11/27/2007 4:08:00 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
I just might miss this one...

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Beginning with a plot point similar to the Terry Schiavo case, Bennett's "The Gift" shows us the shattered psyche of a man who has been forced to shut off the feeding tube of his wife.

From the get-go, "The Gift" shows us what a tremendous gift to Richard (Cory Reeder) was the life of his beloved, Janie (Sarah Elizabeth Boros) – and, now that she's gone, how thoroughly she haunts him, in nightmares as well as in waking dreams.

The story begins immediately after Janie's burial, then picks up four months later, at Christmastime, as he begins to come out of his shell. Visiting a new exhibit of abstract paintings by best friend Harry (Scheel), sculptor Richard re-visits the bathroom of Harry's house – the room where he first met Janie nearly 15 years ago.

Moving back and forth in time between the present, the months following Janie's death, and Richard and Janie's first meeting and married life, "The Gift" shows the impact just one person can have upon others.

'Visitations' delivers a twist for the holidays

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428 posted on 11/27/2007 4:18:13 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
This guy makes a good case for liberalism as a disease. I hope the poor guy gulps some good medicine and lays off the Kool Aid for awhile.

He says, "All I want for Christmas Is hope," when a little helping of Faith just may do some good.

Further digressing (but not really) . . . have you ever thought about the fact that the right wing hates abortion, and demands right-to-life legislation, but thinks nothing of funding wars which have killed tens of thousands of children in Iraq and Afghanistan, something which administration officials no longer can deny? Of course you have. Or that special kangaroo-court session of Congress which was called to pass “right-to-life, brain-dead” legislation in the midst of the Terry Schiavo circus, as you may recall, despite the fact that doctor after doctor (and this was later confirmed in the autopsy reports) said virtually no brain activity existed in the poor woman? She had no cognition of anything that was going on, false advocates included. Keeping her alive was mocking life, in my opinion, disregarding what life ought to be, and in effect refuting the idea of heaven and the rewards for the innocents that await after death. Still, it seemed distasteful to let her starve. But the doctors knew best. Politicians had no business involving themselves in the matter, especially not in special session, and making a political football out of the whole sordid affair.

What ghoulish hypocrites these right-wing congressmen revealed themselves to be. And still are. How does such personal deceit and impropriety go undetected and unchecked by so many of these aristocrats when it occurs within their own very much alive brains and souls?

All I want for Christmas Is hope

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429 posted on 11/27/2007 4:28:40 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; ConservativeColumns; TheSarce
When I first heard the news, my first thoughts were those who drool over destroying human life have lost an excuse. They won't be happy, but will be furious. This thread is by ConservativeColumns with thanks to TheSarce for the ping.

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It appears as if it may soon become easier for lives to be saved without lives being destroyed. Great news, right?

You’d think so, but in the everything-is-partisan world in which we live, celebrations are limited to one side of the aisle.

Dr. James Thomson of the University of Wisconsin – the man who pioneered embryonic stem cell research even while harboring ethical misgivings about the destruction of life it required – is now reporting he may have found a way to get the same kinds of stem cells from adult skin.

If true, the debate is over. Those who object to the creation of life for the purpose of destroying it can rest assured that no such abomination is necessary. And those who want to press ahead with stem cell research in the pursuit of cures for horrible diseases will be able to do so.

Everybody wins! Oh, you silly. It’s never that easy, now is it?

Stem Cell Silence: Maybe Democrats Want to Destroy Embryos

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430 posted on 11/27/2007 4:38:44 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
This thread is all about overcoming an attitude some of us have seen for years and years and is testimony to the good in the hearts of many...

Thread by wagglebee.

But the hard part wasn't over as doctors then refused to feed her child and she had to threaten a medical malpractice lawsuit to get physicians to give Donna appropriate medical care.

"They were letting her starve to death," Vance said. "Now, thanks to Donna's notoriety, kids automatically get a feeding tube."

Disabled Teenager Celebrates 16th Birthday After Mom Refused Abortion

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431 posted on 11/27/2007 4:47:36 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Lesforlife
Awwww, NARAL doesn't like others using deceptive wording. How unfair...

Since they are the experts in deceptive wording, it galls them that others may try to "deceive" by telling truth.

Thread by wagglebee:

LOS ANGELES, November 26, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Human beings, being mammals, do not lay eggs. This fact, known to most school children, is frequently forgotten by those in the media reporting on advancements in embryo and cloning research. The latest example of media misrepresentation on embryo research comes from Saturday's Los Angeles Times which ran the headline, "Abortion opponents push for 'personhood' for eggs."

The Los Angeles Times reporter examines pending bills in several states that would confer legal personhood on the unborn child from the first moment of conception. Nicholas Riccardi cites efforts in Colorado, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana and Georgia to bring ballot initiatives forward that would recognise the existence of a human person from the moment of conception.

Riccardi quotes Belinda Bulger, deputy legal director for the National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL) who complained that the "type of language," in the Colorado ballot initiative is deceptive.

Embryologists to Media: There are no Such Things as Human "Fertilized Eggs"

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432 posted on 11/27/2007 4:55:54 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; kathsua; wagglebee; BykrBayb; bjs1779
After Sanger sung....

Thread by kathsua on Hitler and Darwin. Thanks to wagglebee for the ping.

Contrary to Weichers' claims and in full support of Steen's column, Nazi Germany under the tutelage of Adolph Hitler completely and totally supported the theory of Darwinian evolution as the basis for the superiority of the Aryan race. The Jews were looked down on as early stages of the evolution of the human race and not worthy of the esteemed progression of evolution of the Aryans. It was Hitler's desire to keep the gene pool unpolluted that led him to exterminate the Jews. That is also why no self-respecting Nazi would have sex with a Jew. Remember that Hitler also looked down on the blacks as inferior also.

Hitler wanted to selectively breed a purer Aryan race, and this was all based on the theory of evolution. This theory also gave him the "authority" to dominate other races. After all, Darwinian evolution is all about "survival of the fittest."

I have been to the museums in Germany that completely document this line of thought and experimentation. There are massive amounts of literature written by the Nazis that document their "proof" of the inferiority of the Jews and the superiority of Aryans. Numerous facial pictures are used to "prove" this evolution along with other data. ..............

Hitler and Darwin

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433 posted on 11/27/2007 5:03:55 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Fred and Terri tar baby dailies...

Jill Stanek at WND on the Steponalluvus interview as excerpted:

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Nail 3

Likewise, Thompson thinks states should be free to legalize killing the disabled.

Stephanopoulos brought NRLC into the discussion:

David O'Steen of the National Right to Life Committee said one of the reasons they chose you is that you clarified your position on end-of-life issues, families facing the situation like the Terri Schiavo case. He said you clarified that issue for him and you may be doing so publicly. What did you say to them privately that you haven't said publicly? In public you've said this should be an issue for families and the courts but not state and federal governments.

The Stephen Douglas of the 2008 race

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434 posted on 11/28/2007 3:02:06 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee; floriduh voter
This just in from India...

........But as Terry Schiavo’s case in the US underlines, euthanasia will always have its supporters and detractors. Schiavo, who lived in Florida and was gravely ill, was allowed to die on March 31, 2005, seven years after her husband filed an appeal for the removal of her feeding tube. Her parents opposed the move — and Schiavo, even in death, became a symbol for the two warring sides.

Right to death

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435 posted on 11/28/2007 3:05:25 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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Pat Buchanan on Hannity...

BUCHANAN: You're going to have 100 million Hispanics in the country, most of them new immigrants from Mexico which believes that belongs to them. What's going to happen to us, Sean, in my judgment, is what is happening right now. We are Balkanizing. We are dividing and separating from one another politically, morally — on issues like abortion, or Terry Schiavo — racially and ethnically when you get Jena and then you get Don Imus, and all of the things ripping us apart. All these things that used to pull us together and hold us together, no longer do.

Coming Apart? Pat Buchanan Says U.S. is a 'Nation in Crisis'

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436 posted on 11/28/2007 3:08:26 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Don't faze me, bro!

Well, maybe a little...

Kevorkian's first speech, planned for the University of Florida, was postponed until January after significant protest from pro-life advocates, including Terri Schiavo's family.

Last month, Kevorkian said he was talking with HBO officials about making a movie of his life.

Jack Kevorkian First Speech Thursday at Michigan College on Prison Reform

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437 posted on 11/28/2007 3:11:34 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; Salvation; Pinkbell; wagglebee
A great thread from Salvation! Thanks for the pings, Pinkbell and wagglebee.

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Like every religious or cultic movement the cult of "Choice" has its own set of rules that govern the words and deeds of its adherents. Let's give these rules a quasi-religious title and call them:

 The Ten Commandments of Choice.................

A New Idolatry for the Contemporary American -- Part One [Pro-Choice]

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438 posted on 11/28/2007 3:17:14 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
bttt. I took a freep holiday yesterday. I'm gonna check out Jill Stanek's article. Like me, she probably had no opinion on FT until he started saying such outrageous things. I would fear a president who put the rule of law such as it is today ahead of his Oath of Office. The rule of law has proven time and time again that it can be manipulated by very, bad judges and lawyers.

FYI: December 3rd would have been Terri's birthday. There's no reason on earth why she's not having a big birthday wing ding. On the day all the GOPers are in the county where she as killed, let me say again: TERRI SCHINDLER WAS MURDERED by the left, by the right and by the in betweeners.

I will NOT vote for a RINO. It's not going to happen.

439 posted on 11/28/2007 7:53:41 AM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: 8mmMauser; Lesforlife; wagglebee; Sun; BykrBayb
WND italics:

Jill Stanek fought to stop "live-birth abortion" after witnessing one as a registered nurse at Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, Ill. In 2002, President Bush asked Jill to attend his signing of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. In January 2003, World Magazine named Jill one of the 30 most prominent pro-life leaders of the past 30 years.

By the way, pro-life is in the FR most frequent keywords. I just noticed it. Thread starters, thank you very much for your persistence on all pro-life issues.

440 posted on 11/28/2007 8:09:16 AM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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