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The hole in her universe: On the anniversary of Ayn Rand’s classic, some lessons on God and values
WORLD ^ | October 27, 2007 | John Piper

Posted on 10/19/2007 6:35:11 AM PDT by rhema

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To: stuartcr
Individually yes, although many follow the same standards as others,...

Morality and all of its associated ideals are rooted entirely in the presupposition some higher power defines what is correct for human behavior.

Test it with propositional logic or use categorical logic and Venn diagrams...


...they still have to obey societal laws, or suffer the consequences though.

The rule of the jungle... the strong prevail... or those with a greater army...


People usually do what they want anyway, regardless of laws, don’t they?

They keep sneaking across the border, so why bother?


You’re not the same person that asked this earlier, are you?

No. I didn't see the previous response from my new messages page...

41 posted on 10/19/2007 7:25:51 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Das Outsider

ping


42 posted on 10/19/2007 10:10:33 PM PDT by Pelham (Spanish is the new English)
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To: Pelham

Que?


43 posted on 10/19/2007 10:17:16 PM PDT by Das Outsider (Ideas have consequences, actions have power, and words have meaning.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Red Badger attributes that quote that Ayn Rand had no mercy to me. It’s actually from the article.

Windex! And make sure you do a good job. OJ is sticky stuff!


44 posted on 10/20/2007 4:47:29 AM PDT by saganite
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

You are correct.


45 posted on 10/20/2007 7:53:44 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

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46 posted on 10/20/2007 7:55:18 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Pelham
She abominated altruism. All self-sacrifice is evil because: "Sacrifice is the surrender of a greater value for the sake of a lesser one or of non-value. Thus altruism gauges a man's virtue by the degree to which he surrenders, renounces or betrays his values (since help to a stranger or an enemy is regarded as more virtuous, less 'selfish' than help to those one loves). The rational principle of conduct is the exact opposite: always act in accordance with the hierarchy of your values and never sacrifice a greater value to a lesser one."

And some balk at the fact that I would dare draw comparisons between Rand and Nietzsche. Thanks for the ping, Pel.
47 posted on 10/20/2007 6:58:37 PM PDT by Das Outsider (Ideas have consequences, actions have power, and words have meaning.)
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Shrugged Ping!


48 posted on 11/26/2007 6:06:35 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Dumb_Ox

Shew was a complete jerk. Had a long going affair with her friend’s husband which she objectively rationalized.
Destroyed two marriages because she was an over bearing creep.

An elitist snob with contempt for the masses.
I’d hate to see the totalitarian regime she would
have created.

I believe our founders did a pretty good job with out
the incredible inteeligence of Rand.

Happily say most people learned these lessons through
the belief in a living god.


49 posted on 12/08/2007 12:19:56 AM PST by ChiMark
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