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6 friends killed at party in Crandon (WI) - 1 hurt; hours later, SWAT team kills shooter
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | 10/7/07 | RAQUEL RUTLEDGE

Posted on 10/07/2007 10:23:40 AM PDT by janetjanet998

Edited on 10/07/2007 10:34:41 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: null and void
"(Wanna buy a bridge?...")

Does it come with a lake?

321 posted on 10/07/2007 7:20:10 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound

Why yes it does! This must be your lucky day!


322 posted on 10/07/2007 7:23:02 PM PDT by null and void (Lib-uh-rulz are incapable of perceiving even the clearest consequences)
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To: Don Joe
wreck your faith in "the inherent goodness of your fellow man.

I am a Catholic conservative, and have never believed anything as silly as that!

323 posted on 10/07/2007 7:33:51 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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To: null and void

Glory be! Will you take a check?


324 posted on 10/07/2007 7:40:53 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: null and void
As I said, good luck with that!

As this incident shows, if you have good snipers you don't NEED good luck!

325 posted on 10/07/2007 7:42:46 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (IF TREASON IS THE QUESTION, THEN MOVEON.ORG IS THE ANSWER!)
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To: null and void
A mayor, or a police chief does not have the legal authority to gag a private citizen.

Well, they don't have authority, not even legislative authority in Louisiana, to confiscate everyone's firearms either. But that didn't stop them from doing it in New Orleans.

326 posted on 10/07/2007 7:51:15 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: CindyDawg
How old do you have to be to be a SD? 21?

Usually, but it varies by jurisdiction. Gun laws, other than Lautenberg, almost always have exceptions for police and military. Military only when actually performing their duties, police all the time.

327 posted on 10/07/2007 7:55:34 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: org.whodat
And how old was the perverts former girl friend?

Reportedly about a year younger than him. I don't think that makes him a pervert. Makes him a jealous hot head, and dead.

328 posted on 10/07/2007 7:56:53 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Eastbound
Certified check? Sure, or you could just wire the money to my account in Nigeria...
329 posted on 10/07/2007 8:04:08 PM PDT by null and void (Lib-uh-rulz are incapable of perceiving even the clearest consequences)
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To: El Gato
Of course it turned out to be a part time Cop that killed those people

I think the report is that he was a part time town cop and a full time sheriffs deputy. Both the police chief and the sheriff need to be question as to why they hired this hot head.

330 posted on 10/07/2007 8:09:32 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Lazarus Longer
When I was 18-21 I attended more post-midnight parties than I can remember.

I would imagine that was especially true the night of Homecoming, the Prom, and graduation. Even stick in the mud El Gato (Then, not now) was up until well after dawn on graduation. Had breakfast at the same friend's house where we had the "welcome the exchange students" party at the beginning of the school year. That's where I met the Swedish exchange student, and asked her to the state fair. We had a good time, but even though she wasn't quite the Swedish Bikini Team type, that you DoM might imagine, she was nice and she was very smart, but somehow just wasn't my type. (My wife is German-Danish-Italian, and more blonde than the Swede, and just as smart too, at least she has a higher measured IQ than I do, and scored just bit higher on her GREs than I did.)

331 posted on 10/07/2007 8:17:33 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: org.whodat

Not sure who posted about how many shots, but my boss was the one who called the cops intially. There were more than 20 shots so his aim is not that good and/or he was not too close or just shooting randomly. She said she heard gunshots and screaming, a pause then more gunshots then the squealing tires as he sped away, and then nothing but silence. :(

I heard the last set of shots and the tires as he sped away. Cant imagine how my boss is going to be the next few weeks, it must have been horrific to listen to everyone screaming.


332 posted on 10/07/2007 8:19:17 PM PDT by NorthwoodsGirl
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To: Eastbound

Usually the cops just shoot innocent dogs. Now they’re shooting kids.


333 posted on 10/07/2007 8:22:10 PM PDT by Retief
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To: Don Joe
WI is a “no-CCW” state. More proof that “only the police should be allowed to carry guns.” According to what I’ve been hearing on da tube all day, the “advice” given to people was basically to cringe, cower, hide, and hope he doesn’t find them.

While it's true that WI is a NO CCW state, one of only two, it's far from a No guns state. If there is an armed madman on the loose, a handgun is hardly the optimal weapon, but the lack of CCW law doesn't prevent anyone from having one in their home, place of business, etc. For hunkering down, a shotgun would probably be best. Or perhaps an intermediate power semi-automatic carbine, or just a lever action 30-30. (Plenty of those in the Big Woods I'd imagine). If you really wanted to be sure to keep the shooter away from you and yours, a full power rifle, semi-auto, slide or bolt action, with a scope, would seem to be best. I'd opt for the shotgun *and* the carbine.. although I've got the choice of "any of the above", including the handgun (.45 ACP of course) , 7.62x39 Carbine, M1 Carbine (my favorite), and 7.62 NATO scoped semi auto. (and .22 rifle and pistol). Choice is good!

334 posted on 10/07/2007 8:32:26 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Eastbound

Yes, Prayers.


335 posted on 10/07/2007 8:46:38 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: dennisw
drugs ... money....meth

Sounds more like "hormones"..."jealousy"... "stupidity" to me.

336 posted on 10/07/2007 8:52:57 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
The libs will blame the GUNS.

It'll take major contortions for them to blame it on the gun, since the gun was wielded by a police officer. But never fear, they'll manage somehow.

337 posted on 10/07/2007 8:57:53 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: NRA2BFree
How about home invasions, rapes, murders, auto accidents, robberies, etc?

They come around to take a report, and clean up the mess. So yes we need them, but we can't expect them to actually *prevent* any of those events. It's not even their job really, according to the courts (and common sense). Other than indirectly that is, and indirectly hasn't been working real well of late.

338 posted on 10/07/2007 9:01:27 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Eastbound
This will probably be factored in at his trial.

The buggar's dead. The trial will not be lengthy.

In fact there won't be a trial. Just a corner's inquest, for the killer, and his victims.

339 posted on 10/07/2007 9:05:00 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: SE Mom
But I don’t know what the age is for getting a gun is in Wisconsin..

From the NRA/ILA page for WI.

No state permit is required to possess a rifle, shotgun, or handgun.

It is unlawful for a person under the age of 18 to possess a firearm unless that person is accompanied by a parent or guardian and is target shooting or participating in a firearms training course. Young hunters between the ages of 12 and 16 may possess firearms under the supervision of a parent or guardian while in the field and/or while enrolled in hunter safety classes.

Purchase would covered by Federal Law. Essentially 18 for long guns, 21 for handguns.

But you are correct, these laws almost always have exceptions for police and military. Military are usually excepted only when possessing or carrying firearms in conjunction with their official duties. Police are generally excepted all the time.

340 posted on 10/07/2007 9:13:55 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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