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Dobson Says He Won't Support Thompson
AP ^ | 9/19/07 | Erik Gorski

Posted on 09/19/2007 7:14:10 PM PDT by pissant

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To: pissant

Back it up pissant!


621 posted on 09/20/2007 8:35:41 AM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Theresawithanh

BREEEEEP! Wrong answer. Please try again...
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So you’re bird. Great.


622 posted on 09/20/2007 8:40:55 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: Hostage

Now you are lying through your teeth again. I said Fred WAS pro-choice. He NOW claims to be pro-life.

I already backed it up. You just ignored it, sally.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1899326/posts?page=583#583


623 posted on 09/20/2007 8:41:36 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: JRochelle

Yes, I remember the magazine but I never read it. Several of my friends subscribed to the magazine, I think.


624 posted on 09/20/2007 8:42:05 AM PDT by MTMS
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To: epow
Dobson should realize that neither party is going to nominate an evangelical Christian this time

I'd like to give two examples of how the best of Christians can err politically on the side of "loving" their fellow man and "judging not."

First on many people's minds is Dubya's puzzling enablement of illegal immigration. I think his heart is overruling his head in this issue — he wants to do the good and loving thing for distressed people, but shortcutting the rule of law is a disaster.

Second, the late, beloved Pope John Paul II, having as a youth in Poland witnessed the Nazi persecution of homosexuals or the use of homosexual accusations to silence people, suppressed and turned away the question of homosexuality in evaluating church personnel, which enabled a destructive subculture to thrive unchecked. His intentions were noble, but the results were a disaster.

No man has ever been perfect but Jesus Christ. And we will never have a perfect candidate for office; but we can settle on a pretty good candidate and take our chances that he will live out his term and act effectively, with the help of God. This is a fallen world, people.

625 posted on 09/20/2007 8:43:54 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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To: Hostage
"You were asked to back up your insinuation that FDT is prochoice. Why don’t you do so? Do you think FDT is prochoice? Yes or No?" Well, since you now ask me a direct question,... Fred Thompson once said that abortion is a private matter, between a woman and her doctor. That is actually a pro-death position since it condemns innocent children to death if the woman chooses to kill her baby by having an abortion. Fred Thompson also said that the Republican party's prolife platform was a problem. Hmm... A problem for whom? Now, is Fred pro choice regarding a parent's right to choose the best school for his child, or prochoice on your decision to buy an SUV instead of a sports car, or my right to choose chocolate ice cream and not vanilla? I don't know. Perhaps you will tell me for him. I do have other things to do, though, so, see ya! It's been fun!
626 posted on 09/20/2007 8:44:06 AM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: pissant

FDT was never prochoice and each of your links claiming he was is a lie.

Every one of those links was shot down numerous times.

But you finally brought those links into this thread after being challenged multiple times. So now people can read through those threads and see you are a liar.

Stand by for your weekly a*s kicking pissant!


627 posted on 09/20/2007 8:46:07 AM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day

Yes. And now it’s affirmed. You are another that believes FDT was or is prochoice.

That’s all that needs to be seen.


628 posted on 09/20/2007 8:47:34 AM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Hostage

I warned you not to stand near a natural gas line.


629 posted on 09/20/2007 8:50:27 AM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: thefactor
“he should worry about his own house and stop trying to push his values on the entire country. what’s good for arkansas might not be so good for new york. maybe next he’ll be pushing for a constitutional ban on judaism. or atheism.”

Didn’t you say in your last post to me that you don’t know Dr. Dobson or who he is? When did he try to push anything on you, Sir?

Dr. Dobson is a man with conviction who is supported, not by tax money, but by individuals who have been blessed and helped by his ministry, and who willingly contribute so that others, who want it, also have an opportunity to receive help.

What do you recommend? Maybe you would have the FCC order the FOTF radio programs removed from the airwaves so that Dr. Dobson can’t “push” anything on anyone.

Do you ever listen to any radio or TV talk shows featuring very outspoken men? (Rush, Haunt, Levine, Drudge, Savage, Boortz, or others?). Would you say that these men are “pushing” something on people?

Are you not now “pushing” on us the concept that no man’s morality should be introduced on a radio or TV set (?), that those who might appreciate men like Dr. Dobson should be denied his ministry?

If you ever happen upon the Focus On the Family radio broadcast, let me remind you that your radio has a couple of useful knobs or buttons. One will change the frequency, and one will cut the power off. So again, I ask, when Did Dr. Dobson ever push anything on you?

Federalism may be, in fact, one of those areas where I might disagree with Dr. Dobson — but how does that translate in your mind that the man is dishonest about his or his organization’s income, and would accept money from another candidate to not support Fred Thompson? And if you know so little about Dr. Dobson, then how did you come to know so much about his position.

Thank God for people in our nation who HAVE a morality. People that don’t, want to shove their lack therof on us. Historically, people with Dr. Dobson’s morality, along with the source of that morality were here F I R S T !! The founding fathers openly and publicly endorsed and recommended the source of Dr. Dobson’s mind set. That source is the Bible. We have recently posted eight pages of public quotes from our founders and presidents down to FDR that endorsed the values and principles of the Bible. Need we repost those eight pages and more? There are full volumes of them, published.

630 posted on 09/20/2007 8:52:55 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day

You are in no position to warn anyone of anything.

You have been exposed. That’s all that people need to know about you.


631 posted on 09/20/2007 8:56:48 AM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Sloth
Yet Congress can choose to exempt pretty much anything from Federal courts' authority if they want to, certainly more easily than getting an amendment ratified. And if leftist judges cannot read the plain wording of the existing laws & Constitution, then why should we expect they'll respect the wording of a new amendment?

I only set forth the theory of why a marriage amendment has been proposed and why its proponents think it will work. I understand and sympathize with your frustration and hopelessness; but we must not allow it to keep us from trying to hold back the huge threat of atheist socialism deeply entrenched in our society. Persons of conscience have been asleep too long. The solution will never be political; there must be campaigns for hearts and minds regarding the superiority of natural man-woman faithful marriage and parenthood over synthetics like same-sex "open relationships", "partnering" and "parenting".

632 posted on 09/20/2007 8:56:56 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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To: epow

True, Rudy has fidelity issues but then so did billy jeff and it didn’t hurt him attracting the women’s vote. One difference, however. Rudy has never made a show of his religion, so unlike clinton, he can’t easily be accused of hypocrisy. In politics, it often seems that hypocrisy is a bigger issue than the underlying wrongdoing.


633 posted on 09/20/2007 9:00:24 AM PDT by CommerceComet
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To: Hostage
...he apporopriate question to him/her is whether he/she thinks FDT is prochoice. This leads them into the trap I set for them. Please wait aside and see if they take the bait.

You may be right; time will tell. But I post for the benefit of any reader here pondering these Fred questions, not just for the one-issue extremists.

634 posted on 09/20/2007 9:00:36 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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To: John Leland 1789
We have recently posted eight pages of public quotes from our founders and presidents down to FDR that endorsed the values and principles of the Bible. Need we repost those eight pages and more?

I'd be quite interested in a link to that post, please.

635 posted on 09/20/2007 9:06:26 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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To: Albion Wilde

“. . . we must not allow [frustration and hopelessness] to keep us from trying to hold back the huge threat of atheist socialism deeply entrenched in our society. Persons of conscience have been asleep too long. The solution will never be political; there must be campaigns for hearts and minds regarding the superiority of natural man-woman faithful marriage and parenthood over synthetics like same-sex “open relationships”, “partnering” and “parenting”.”


Wonderful and helpful comments. Thank you!


636 posted on 09/20/2007 9:09:45 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: JRochelle
"Dobson wants Newt to get in. This was his message tonight."

Now there's an exemplar of personal morality, values and clean living!
637 posted on 09/20/2007 9:12:06 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Thompson 2008!])
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To: John Leland 1789
i'll put it quite simply.

whenever anyone speaks of their opinions, they are "pushing" an agenda. as i said in an earlier post, this man can say whatever he wishes. so can i.

i just think it's silly to reduce a presidential election in the current political era to the issue of a constitutional ban on gay marriage.

and i think it's irresponsible to do so in the way he did. he sent out a "personal" email. a personal email to millions of followers?

i'm happy for his success. good for him. but talk about things that actually matter for the future of this country. when it's all said and done, if the states have the right to decide on gay marriage the sun will still rise on america. and i would even guess that most states would agree with doctor dobson. but obviously he doesn't trust the state reps or even the state residents to make the "proper" choice.

but let's talk about terrorism, open borders and other aspects of national security.

and did doctor dobson actually go to medical school or should i be writing "Mr. Dobson, PhD"?

638 posted on 09/20/2007 9:12:08 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: Saundra Duffy

“...she won’t allow Mormons to pray with her and her gang on the National Day of Prayer”

Where and when did you hear/read that?!


639 posted on 09/20/2007 9:15:33 AM PDT by a real Sheila (stop hillary NOW!)
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To: pollywog

You cannot put Dobson and Billy Graham in the same sentence..not and have any credibility.....and this is Not huge....this is..well, the only word I can think of is....silly. Who cares?


640 posted on 09/20/2007 9:22:55 AM PDT by DallasSun
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