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Dobson Says He Won't Support Thompson
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| 9/19/07
| Erik Gorski
Posted on 09/19/2007 7:14:10 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Paperdoll
"You read somewhere"...
Be honest for a change, I just saw your post on the Dickie Morris thread about this earlier. You know where you read this, Morris said he was taking a week off in his OPINION piece.
Fred was in Houston this week, not a week off as I can see.
Facts suck don’t they...
541
posted on
09/20/2007 6:19:53 AM PDT
by
ejonesie22
(I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
To: fetal heart beats by 21st day
Nice rant. It has nothing to do with the fact that overturning Roe v. Wade sends the issue back to the states, however.
542
posted on
09/20/2007 6:21:33 AM PDT
by
kevkrom
(The religion of global warming: "There is no goddess but Gaia and Al Gore is her profit.")
To: MissouriConservative
you can't legislate moralityHow about "Don't kill people...Don't steal, etc..." Those are laws legislating morality. Yes we DO need laws legislating morality in this country on things that are fundamentally right and wrong. Abortion and homosexuality are chipping away at the moral foundation of this nation. We need leaders that recognize this.
543
posted on
09/20/2007 6:22:58 AM PDT
by
Drawsing
(The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
To: kevkrom
“Nice rant. It has nothing to do with the fact that overturning Roe v. Wade sends the issue back to the states, however.”
Rant=”to talk noisily, excitedly, or wildly; to scold violently.”
Try using your words more carefully.
What I wrote does not meet the definition unless you feel I am scolding you for your ignorant remarks to which you have no reasonable reply. If you imagine it to be a violent scolding, well....
Abortion=the direct killing of an unborn human being and is not a states’ rights issue.
SCOTUS had the duty to overturn abortion laws as violations of federal law.
Instead, they enshrined murder into law-an unconstitutional position.
544
posted on
09/20/2007 6:41:38 AM PDT
by
fetal heart beats by 21st day
(Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
To: pollywog
So if it comes down to Fred vs. Hillary, you’re going to stay home and let the Anti-Christette win?
I’m not totally sold on Fred. Frankly I like Duncan Hunter more, but let’s face it, Hunter’s campaign has been lackluster, to put it nicely.
Of the candidates with a snowball’s chance, Fred is the most conservative one, and the one who is most likely to champion traditional American values. He appears by all reports to be a decent Christian man. Not perfect, but there was only One perfect Man ever among us, and He isn’t running in ‘08.
To: roamer_1
First of all, I am a Christian. Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior, second of all, I am out in the world from city to city, state to state, I see what is taking place and as for Dobson, he does “NOT” represent ALL CHRISTIANS and certainly not me.
The ones that follow him on ONE ISSUE should be ashamed and never say one word about what is taking place in CONGRESS or this country since they are just as much to blame as are the LIBERALS who place the SOCIALIST in office.
Therefore, stop insulting me.
546
posted on
09/20/2007 6:50:50 AM PDT
by
Paige
("Facts are stubborn things." President Ronald Reagan)
To: Spiff
Thanks for that information. It makes more sense to me now.
“Creepy” would seem to be an overstatement.
547
posted on
09/20/2007 6:53:35 AM PDT
by
Petronski
(Cleveland Indians: AL Central -3)
To: Clara Lou
Dobson's waning influence seems more due to his enormous
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548
posted on
09/20/2007 6:54:23 AM PDT
by
b9
("Fred... doesn't suffer fools and he has the guts and the microphone to say what I think" ~ Samwise)
To: LadyNavyVet
So if it comes down to Fred vs. Hillary, youre going to stay home and let the Anti-Christette win?
The PRINCIPLE of the thing is more general than specific candidates.
The question a lot of Christians will have to face is this --- given two flawed candidates. One who can meet 60% of your criteria and one who meets less than 10% of your criteria, will you :
1) Cover your nose and vote for the 60% candidate and say to yourself --- better to slow down the slide to decadence than to accelerate it.
2) Stay home and simply allow the 10% candidate to walk and virtually guarantee the acceleration of decdence.
Apparently a lot of Christians prefer #2 to prevail.
To: fetal heart beats by 21st day
You claimed that Thompson's position is not in favor of overturning
Roe v. Wade. But that is
exactly what Thompson's position is -- I think the problem here is that you don't understand what the effect of overturning
Roe v. Wade is. You seem to be laboring under the false impression that overturning
Roe v. Wade would result in a national prohibition of abortion -- the truth is that it will allow states to set their own abortion laws without federal restrictions, just as was true prior to
Roe v. Wade.
The practical effect of that would be the probable saving of hundreds of thousands of lives each year, as about 20-25 states would likely pass laws banning or severely restricting abortions.
550
posted on
09/20/2007 7:02:50 AM PDT
by
kevkrom
(The religion of global warming: "There is no goddess but Gaia and Al Gore is her profit.")
To: anyone
There goes Dobson again, doing all he can to get baby murdering, gay marriage supporting, and embrionic stem cell supporting democrats elected again. Good Job, you irrelevant and pitiful excuse for a Christian!
551
posted on
09/20/2007 7:06:16 AM PDT
by
guido911
(Islamic terrorists are members of the "ROP", the "religion of pu*&ies")
To: jude24
There's the rub, and the reason I am hesitant to support Sen. Thompson. What's he done? He has less of a record than even Barack Obama!
HUH?? Obama has been in the US Senate for what,2 1/2 yrs? Or is it 4 1/2?,and would have lost to Ryan if his sealed divorce records hadn't been published.
By the way. Just how much Experience did Lincoln have before he was elected?
552
posted on
09/20/2007 7:09:52 AM PDT
by
painter
(Oval Office, Fred. Might be something you ought to think about.)
To: All
Again, read Dobson’s comments carefully.
It is about executive competence. There is more to being president than mouthing lines. Thompson has cancer and no executive experience. He does not, and perhaps can not, work very hard.
Ronald Reagan could not have been an effective president without his experience running the government in California as Governor. Regardless of his ideology and philosophy . . . he would not have been effective. Dobson’s comments are about competence as much as they are about position. We’re hearing rather a lot of this about Thompson of late, by people who understand its importance.
553
posted on
09/20/2007 7:11:46 AM PDT
by
Owen
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fred just turned 65, not 66.You are correct, sir; my bad.
554
posted on
09/20/2007 7:12:49 AM PDT
by
Albion Wilde
( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
To: kevkrom
I would like to hear Thompson publicly state that Roe v. Wade is a violation of the US Constitution because it violates the unalienable right to life of unborn human beings. I want to hear Fred Thompson, not his supporters, say, especially in light of his past statements about how the Republican party's prolife platform is a problem, that he unequivocally supports overturning Roe v. Wade, that Roe v. Wade was a violent unconstitutional decision, and that the SCOTUS should have overturned all abortion laws because they were an abridgement of the due process rights and right to life of unborn human beings. I would like to hear him unequivocally state that it is not a federalist issue for the reasons I already cited: Any proabortion legislation is a violation of not only God’s laws, but US laws as well. As you read, bear in mind that person was used interchangeably with human being until Blackmun said the court would “ignore the well-known facts of fetal development” in Roe v. Wade in 1973. Also keep in mind that capital punishment was legal. The Declaration of Independence opens by stating the fundamental guiding principles of the new fledgling country: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all Men are CREATED equal, that they are endowed by their CREATOR with certain UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, that among these are LIFE, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness...” “...nor shall any peron...be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law...”(Amendment V of the US Constitution) This was binding on the federal government, so no federal government representative had the power to promote or authorize abortion. The unborn are undeniably human beings who are denied their due process and their right to life. The fourteenth Amendment,ratified in 1868, incorporated due process and the right to life so that now no state representative could lawfully deny the right to life or due process rights to any innocent human being. Justice Blackmun’s opinion, in Roe v. Wade was a direct violation of both God’s laws and US law. The right to life of innocent human beings is not a states’ rights issue. Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.
555
posted on
09/20/2007 7:13:20 AM PDT
by
fetal heart beats by 21st day
(Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
To: cartoonistx
I wonder if Jim would vote for a twice married former hollywood B movie actor and former union president who, as governor of California, signed into law a sweeping abortion-on-demand bill?Not to mention "no-fault" divorce... both of which he later sorely regretted.
556
posted on
09/20/2007 7:15:41 AM PDT
by
Albion Wilde
( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
To: RockinRight
Bull. I have demonstrated it over and over and over.
557
posted on
09/20/2007 7:22:08 AM PDT
by
pissant
(Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
To: Paperdoll
Well, seeing as there is only one, maybe two now, Republican candidates running who are Conservatives with Biblical principles, Dr. Dobson will no doubt vote for either Duncan Hunter or Alan Keyes.Mike Huckabee and Sam Brownback would like a word with you.
To: pissant
Dobson has LOST HIS FREAKIN MIND!
To: aruanan; pissant
That’s right, and FDT is adamantly for overturning Roe vs. Wade in accordance with the principles of Federalism.
560
posted on
09/20/2007 7:24:39 AM PDT
by
Hostage
(Fred Thompson will be President.)
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