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How Poor Are America's Poor? Examining the "Plague" of Poverty in America
Heritage Foundation ^ | 8/27/07 | Robert E. Rector

Posted on 09/02/2007 12:24:41 PM PDT by wagglebee

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The bottom line is that the left NEEDS to DEFINE a large portion of Americans as "poor" to continue to push their socialist agenda.
1 posted on 09/02/2007 12:24:47 PM PDT by wagglebee
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John Edwards said there are “Two Americas”. And he worked for the hedge fund to learn about poverty. Let’s ask him what more we can do to fight poverty that hasn’t already been tried.


2 posted on 09/02/2007 12:28:00 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Like so many things in life it all depends on the definition. You are correct, the left (democrats) will always change the definition in order make sure there is at least 10% poor.


3 posted on 09/02/2007 12:29:00 PM PDT by engrpat
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As long as poverty is defined as being a certain percentage of the population, it doesn’t matter how much money people have.


4 posted on 09/02/2007 12:30:20 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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There is no poverty in America — free schools — free housing — free money — free food — free healthcare — and on and on.

Oh wait! No free bling-bling and drugs — damned America!

5 posted on 09/02/2007 12:35:30 PM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have .chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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The poor are so poor in America that the poor of other countries are walking over shards of broken glass bare-foot to get in.


6 posted on 09/02/2007 12:37:31 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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Having been to India, China, and Romania for extended periods in my professional travels, and not having had the "red carpet" treatment in those travels, I can honestly say that John Edwards is either ignorant of what true poverty is...or he is an out and out liar.

We have those in this country who are relatively poor...but the vast majority of them do not know what true poverty is as compared to how most of the rest of the world lives...and they do have a much, much better opportunity to pull themselves out of it if they simply choose to do so.

7 posted on 09/02/2007 12:37:45 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not Free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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I can honestly say that John Edwards is either ignorant of what true poverty is...or he is an out and out liar.

Probably both.

We have those in this country who are relatively poor...and they do have a much, much better opportunity to pull themselves out of it if they simply choose to do so.

I totally believe that ANYONE in America who is of average intelligence, not burdened with serious mental or emotional problems AND willing to work hard can achieve the American Dream. And the more intelligent a person is and the harder they're willing to work, the easier it gets.

8 posted on 09/02/2007 12:41:01 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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“The bottom line is that the left NEEDS to DEFINE a large portion of Americans as “poor” to continue to push their socialist agenda.”

That is completely true yet for the last six and a half years the Bush administration has been in charge of the US Bureau of the Census which collects poverty data and which publishes the annual reports on poverty and the Bush administration has done nothing to change public perception of poverty and it has increased federal funding to poverty programs.
The largest expansion of publically funded health care since LBJ is the new Medicare Part D program, passed by a Republican congress and signed into law at a cost to taxpayers of $43 billion per year by a Republican President.
I wish Republicans weren’t aiding the socialist agenda.


9 posted on 09/02/2007 12:44:28 PM PDT by jamese777
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Of that 10%, 90% of them are poor because they are lazy.


10 posted on 09/02/2007 12:46:43 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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The United States of America. Where the poor are fat and the rich are thin.


11 posted on 09/02/2007 12:50:07 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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Aside from the war on terror and (hopefully) his two SCOTUS appointments, GWB has been a disappointment.


12 posted on 09/02/2007 12:50:38 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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I didn’t read the whole thing, but I got the point.

But I have a gripe about these statistics, even though I think they are correct. I am really sick of seeing statistics on how many people own a color TV as compared to 40 years ago.

First of all, there are no black and white TVs anymore. ALL TVS ARE COLOR. Secondly, TVs are DAM CHEAP! If you want to measure affluence, count how many people have a rear projection TV or plasma TVs or a blackberry or highspeed internet service or a zero radius turn riding lawn mower or a digital camcorder, or a sony playstation3.

This color TV stupid crap really gets on my nerves. I bought my COLOR TV USED FOR 35 BUCKS! I guess that makes me rich though, doesn’t it??!?!!

13 posted on 09/02/2007 12:51:37 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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Excerpt and link please. This is the longest posting I have ever seen on FR. You even added the footnotes.


14 posted on 09/02/2007 12:52:15 PM PDT by em2vn
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Poor people have POOR HABITS.....generally speaking.


15 posted on 09/02/2007 12:55:07 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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I disagree. I think they are lazy because they are depressed. I think they are depressed because they are poor and don’t know how to fix it. I think they are poor because they are social misfits and lack people skills and that makes it difficult for them to find jobs.
16 posted on 09/02/2007 12:57:49 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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If I were a truly poor person in the Third World, I would want to be poor in the US. Unfortunately, they are making it so, no thanks to Bush and the RATs, our idiotic immigration policies and the massive failure to obey our own laws. Have any Freepers seen the 2000 mile wall yet? Gee, I thought our pressure on the morons in gummint meant something more than a legislative win. Time to inundate the morons again with “Where’s the wall, you dolts!” missives and calls.


17 posted on 09/02/2007 12:58:56 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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I bought my COLOR TV USED FOR 35 BUCKS! I guess that makes me rich though, doesn’t it??!?!!

I think the point is the standard of living in the U.S. is much higher than the rest of the world. Your 35 bucks you spent on your used color TV is the equivalent of one month's wages in many parts of the world.

The fact that you listed all of those “toys” as a sign of wealth is very telling. Perhaps instead you should look for a measure of poverty. Such as whether you had at least one meal yesterday. The “Poor” in the U.S. are often obese.

18 posted on 09/02/2007 1:00:07 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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Statistically, there’s no “poverty” in America except for political or comparative poverty. The poverty problem was invented by LBJ as an excuse to socialize the country and give everlasting power to Demoncrats.

That’s not to say that there are zero poor people, but their numbers are so small that their problems could easily be solved by a tiny percentage of the Government money leftist politicians claim is being spent on anti-poverty programs. The problem, of course, is that the numbers of truly poor Americans is so small that they represent an insignificant voting bloc, so the left isn’t really interested in them. They’re significantly more interested in the irresponsible people that they can convince are “poor” due to Republicans and capitalism.

19 posted on 09/02/2007 1:03:13 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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The poor are obese because food is not in short supply in america. Everyone in america can eat his fill every day...EVEN THOSE WITH NO INCOMES EAT THEIR FILL EVERY DAY! The rich are thin because they make an effort to be healthy.

There is no correlation between wealth and hunger in this country. We have achieved a level of utopia in terms of food. Not only can the poor afford to eat themselves to death, they can also afford to drink themselves to death AND SMOKE A PACK OF CIGARETTES A DAY while doing so. That is an amazing achievement if you stop and think about it.

20 posted on 09/02/2007 1:09:34 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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