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Ron Paul Dominates Non-partisan Straw Poll
TransWorldNews ^ | 8/27/2007 | staff

Posted on 08/27/2007 12:59:56 PM PDT by rface

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To: Prokopton
There's a difference between panicking and laughing.

Bump that. I'm convinced the aPaulogists don't have a sense of humor however, so they'll never see it. ;^P

181 posted on 08/27/2007 9:58:18 PM PDT by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com/2007/08/11/school-of-the-counterpropagandist/)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Post#264


182 posted on 08/27/2007 10:00:36 PM PDT by KDD (Ron Paul for President)
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To: wpa_mikeb
By the way, why isn’t he running on the libertarian ticket?

You'd think he would, wouldn't you, in order to maintain his "moral high ground" that his supporters seem to think he owns. But he's as motivated by the $$$ in politics as the next guy it seems. He could have at least presented himself as what he is and earned a modicum of respect from me for that.

183 posted on 08/27/2007 10:01:25 PM PDT by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com/2007/08/11/school-of-the-counterpropagandist/)
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To: rface; SJackson; elhombrelibre; Petronski; soccermom
Good grief...moonbat wings are fluttering in our faces again. It's time for our Daily Moonbat Dose.

Where are the Paulies getting this stuff??

184 posted on 08/27/2007 10:07:51 PM PDT by Allegra (Dang, that went fast. Back in the Middle East. again...sigh...)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
You do know that Hillary supports the War don't you?

Hillary Clinton Crafts Centrist Stance on War

Clinton's support for the war continues the pro-defense posture she has maintained in the Senate. As a member of the Armed Services Committee, she has courted Pentagon commanders and military families, and as a senator from New York on Sept. 11, 2001, her advocacy for the campaign against terrorists has been unwavering. But her decision to let others lead the debate over Iraq reflects what allies say is her innate caution.

Clinton's support for the war has prompted a challenge from Jonathan Tasini, an antiwar Democrat, in next year's Senate primary in New York.

She gave a speech at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York in December 2003 on Iraq and terrorism counseling patience in the military struggle there.

Asked how she differs with Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (D-Conn.), who has been Bush's strongest supporter among the Democrats, Wolfson said, "That's a briar patch I choose not to throw myself into."

185 posted on 08/27/2007 10:12:00 PM PDT by KDD (Ron Paul for President)
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To: KDD; George W. Bush

1. Hillary is leading by 17 points in polls. The only good thing you can say about Karl Marx with breasts is that she is at least bitchy enough to tell the Daily Kos crowd to go f___ themselves. The nomination is hers no matter how much they scream. I don’t know who I hate more, her or them.

2. Wow! Post 264 was pretty in your face. In fairness, I’m not sure if the admin at the time was as much anti-Paul as he/she was anti the idea of GW not respecting their authoritah.


186 posted on 08/27/2007 10:20:05 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
My post at 268 on that thread addresses my reservation about our nation building adventure in Iraq. Not one post in the hundreds that followed disputed my synopsis or refuted my assertions.
187 posted on 08/27/2007 10:29:24 PM PDT by KDD (Ron Paul for President)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
she is at least bitchy enough to tell the Daily Kos crowd to go f___ themselves.

Shouldn't you give her more credit then that? Nearly 7 of 10 Americans polled do not support our nation building action in Iraq....Moveon.org and Daily Kos do not have that many members.

Once again I find myself at odds with her on foreign policy.

188 posted on 08/27/2007 10:37:23 PM PDT by KDD (Ron Paul for President)
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To: KDD
Shouldn't you give her more credit then that?

In a word: NO. I'm off to read your post that you referenced. Be back in a sec.

189 posted on 08/27/2007 10:39:36 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: chesty_puller

lol Yeah I saw that. Hahahahaha Kookcinich.


190 posted on 08/27/2007 10:47:41 PM PDT by Maelstorm (When ideas are considered equal regardless of content, then arriving at truth becomes an accident.)
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To: KDD

OK: The arguments you make are not entirely assinine, except for the parts where you reference public opinion as being your source of wisdom on military and foreign policy matters.....

“Do Ron Paul supporters support military nation building police actions in remote parts of the world? No, most do not. We are now in the process in Iraq of building up a country that has adopted Sharia Law and the Koran as it’s foundational basis in law. One that has close ties to Shia Iran, thus Hezbolluh. If Islamists are our fundemental enemy then what we are doing is unconscionable. We have stupidly created a super Shia Islamic alliance between Iran Iraq and Syria in the heart of the ME.

We have neglected our primary mission in Afghanistan to capture or kill those responsible for 9/11. The resurgence of Afgani heroin imports are once again flooding Europe. The Taliban had stopped this flow of drugs to the rest of the world. Our lack of resolve there has destabilized Pakistan and put the possibility of a nuclear armed Islamic theocracy closer to reality then anything happening in Iraq or even Iran. We have ignored the complicity of Saudia Arabia in financing the terrorists who perpetrated 9/11 and see on our television George Bush holding hands and strolling in the garden with one of the major backers of Wahhabism in the world. Our other “axis of evil” participant, Korea, is given the Carter treatment by this administration. Our open borders are an open invitation to terrorists and other criminals who wish us harm. So the question should not be why Paul supporters do not support this administrations foreign policies, but why 29% of the American people still do.”

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We live in a world that glorifies and indeed demands instant results. Fast food, faxes, text messaging, e-mail, instant coffee, microwaves...

The fact of the matter is that nobody...not you are I and especially not the power hungry left wing Socialists who have staked their political future on American defeat...know how this Iraq invasion/experiment will turn out.

We’ll know for sure in 25 years. If Iraq become a Shi’a theocracy and a puppet state of Iran, it was a miserable idea. If Iraq become a shining beacon of freedom that causes the citizens of other autocratic and theocratic Mid East regimes to aspire to their Iraqi neighbor’s status, then George W. Bush, the president not the FR poster, will have his face carved in Mount Rushmore.


191 posted on 08/27/2007 10:50:26 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: rface

I just figured out what that poll is. It is not a straw poll. It is a kook meter! Ron Paul is joined by his runner up Dennis Kookcinich.


192 posted on 08/27/2007 10:54:23 PM PDT by Maelstorm (When ideas are considered equal regardless of content, then arriving at truth becomes an accident.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
If you understand Islamism, then you should be hard pressed to imagine that a country whose Constitution is based on Sharia Law and the Koran could ever be what we would describe as a "a shining beacon of freedom."

Islam is incompatible with western ideals of freedom.

193 posted on 08/27/2007 10:59:36 PM PDT by KDD (Ron Paul for President)
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To: rface

Has anyone considered Ron Pauls Age? Like 72?


194 posted on 08/27/2007 10:59:45 PM PDT by Texas Mom (Two places you're always welcome - Church and Grandma's house.)
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To: Texas Mom

It has crossed my mind.


195 posted on 08/27/2007 11:12:33 PM PDT by KDD (Ron Paul for President)
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To: KDD

The Iraqi Constitution is not based on Sharia law. Than again, any country’s Constitution is just a meaningless piece of paper that can be bastardized by mob rule and activist judges.

We see that here in the USA.

Nowhere in the Iraqi Constitution does it say that Christians who operate a liquor store should have their store burned to the ground and be arrested. Does it happen? Yes.

Nor does it say anything about Islamic dress codes and mandatory burquas. Yet that has become the de facto law in some areas there.

Our US Constitution doesn’t say anything about banning ______ (fill in the blank), but that doesn’t stop the agenda afflicted.


196 posted on 08/27/2007 11:13:36 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: rface

If he is looking for support as Al Qaeda’s man in America, he is in the wrong party. He should take his paleopeacecreepism to the Demonratic Party where it belongs. There he can slug it out with Mrs. Arkansas Antichrist, Barack HUSSEIN Obama, the Breck Girl, and the lesser nutcase candidates like his pal Cuckoocinich over who has the most detailed plans for betraying our country in time of war.


197 posted on 08/27/2007 11:19:51 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Texas Mom

He’s a 104.


198 posted on 08/27/2007 11:20:28 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: ex-snook

We care about a paleopeacecreep taking the good name of conservative in vain and making believe that institutional cowardice as a nation has something to do with actual conservatism. The antiwar antiAmerican element belong in the Demonrat Party and NOT in the GOP or in public office.


199 posted on 08/27/2007 11:23:55 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: KDD
You know as well as I do that "rights" are only alleged. Some liberal Constitutional "scholars" and judges take the view of "That which is not expressly permitted, is forbidden." Why should a Third World sinkhole be any different than the greatest country ever in the history of the planet Earth?


200 posted on 08/27/2007 11:23:56 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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