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The Two Things To Know Before Your City is Nuked By Terrorists
Townhall.com ^ | August 15, 2007 | Douglas MacKinnon

Posted on 08/15/2007 4:41:43 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: kabar

My point is that the tone of this article is right up there with Odovacar is at the gates and we should prepare for wholesale rape and plunder.

Will be be attacked? Who the heck knows. We are at war, which is what the media and rest of the idiots have forgotten.


141 posted on 08/15/2007 9:13:28 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Hardastarboard

I often wondered how much land would be needed to prevent an attack. If I were a looter and I thought that you had someting that I wanted, I might just lob a gasoline bomb on you house and shoot the people inside as they ran out.
Dogs would be shot and eaten of course before attacking.
Getting close enough would be hard if there were more than a few acres of flat and treeless land around the house.

\not a looter


142 posted on 08/15/2007 9:18:53 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: wrench
The W54 warhead used on the Davy Crockett weighed just 51 pounds and was the smallest and lightest fission bomb (implosion type) ever deployed by the United States

All that you have mentioned were prototypes, one-offs, or experiments, except for the land mine, which was deployed in small numbers and never assembled into a workable configuration outside of the US. It was considered too dangerous to use offensively, and was slated as a denial weapon. Also, all of these "projects" were initiated in the 1950's during a period of great advancement in nuclear weapons design in the US.

None of these lightweight and advanced implosion designs could be built by terrorists with a 3rd grade education using a hammer and a grenade pin in some cave somewhere, and none of these designs exist in any arsenal today. Security, storage, and usability make them impractical footnotes of history, nothing else.

143 posted on 08/15/2007 9:22:12 AM PDT by Mr. Quarterpanel (I am not an actor, but I play one on TV)
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To: Vermont Lt
That is the reason to have firearms and ammo. And lots of water and spaghetti.

Ding... ding... ding... we have our winner.

And yes, I have plenty of the above (except for canned spaghetti --gag.)

144 posted on 08/15/2007 9:26:31 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here...)
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To: wideawake

9/11 wasn’t a wide area radioactive event. Contaminated areas will not see delivery of much needed supplies including refrigerated medicines. First responders will be at home with their families. Unless you’ve got lots of cash tucked away to move and establish a new life, your home and perhaps other hard potentially contaminated assets (read metals which absorb strontium 90, cesium and Carbon 14) will be worthless. And something tells me New Yorkers will be screaming loudest about living in a FEMA trailer.


145 posted on 08/15/2007 9:26:45 AM PDT by HockeyPop
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To: Kaslin

You would have thought that Hurricane Katrina would have proven that what he’s saying is true, and a nuke would make that look like a cakewalk.


146 posted on 08/15/2007 9:27:07 AM PDT by jpl (Dear Al Gore: it's 3:00 A.M., do you know where your drug addicted son is?)
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To: Kaslin

If this happens, woe be the inhabitants of the ME.


147 posted on 08/15/2007 9:30:20 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: windcliff

“Protect the food!”


148 posted on 08/15/2007 9:31:14 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Lurking in Kansas

Who said canned? The water is to keep my italian MIL alive to cook.


149 posted on 08/15/2007 9:32:04 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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To: ovrtaxt

And if you were completely honest with yourself, you would embrace the ammo comment, wouldn’t you. I know I do every spring when the cotton heads that pop up over the head rests of the huge Lincolns and Continentals start arrving back north.

I’ll give you fifty bucks to keep them over the summer? Just tell me where to send it.


150 posted on 08/15/2007 9:38:51 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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To: HockeyPop
9/11 wasn’t a wide area radioactive event.

Neither would a dirty bomb be.

Unless you’ve got lots of cash tucked away to move and establish a new life, your home and perhaps other hard potentially contaminated assets (read metals which absorb strontium 90, cesium and Carbon 14) will be worthless.

If I survived, my home would be fine and my firm would take up residence in its disaster recovery facilities in PA. It would lengthen my commute significantly.

And something tells me New Yorkers will be screaming loudest about living in a FEMA trailer.

A FEMA trailer would be more spacious than the average Manhattan studio apartment.

151 posted on 08/15/2007 9:42:22 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
You seem to have solidified your candidacy for being the #1 A-hole on this here thread!
152 posted on 08/15/2007 9:45:42 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Kaslin

In the event of a nuclear attack on US soil, the US Northern Command is in charge of crisis management and consequence mamagement.


153 posted on 08/15/2007 9:50:00 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Kaslin
"In a recent conversation with a former high level intelligence operative of our government,"

Next.

154 posted on 08/15/2007 9:50:54 AM PDT by Chunga (Conservatives Don't Let Democrats Win Elections. They Vote Republican.)
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To: ohioman
You are a known clown whose opinion is meaningless.
155 posted on 08/15/2007 9:54:41 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: Mr. Quarterpanel

“All that you have mentioned were prototypes, one-offs, or experiments, except for the land mine, which was deployed in small numbers and never assembled into a workable configuration outside of the US. It was considered too dangerous to use offensively, and was slated as a denial weapon. Also, all of these “projects” were initiated in the 1950’s during a period of great advancement in nuclear weapons design in the US.

None of these lightweight and advanced implosion designs could be built by terrorists with a 3rd grade education using a hammer and a grenade pin in some cave somewhere, and none of these designs exist in any arsenal today. Security, storage, and usability make them impractical footnotes of history, nothing else.”

Nice rewrite of history, shame it isn’t true.

Here is what your “never assembled....” project became:

The Davy Crockett was deployed with U.S. Army forces from 1961 to 1971. Between 1956 and 1963, 2,100 were produced at an estimated cost (excluding the warhead) of $540 million (in constant 1996 dollars).

The point of bringing this up is that the hardware and knowhow exists here and most likely in the former USSR. Depending on who you believe there are many nuke devices missing around the world. The Universities churn out PHDs in Nuclear Physics every year.

The now aging hardware is around, and the know how to make it work is also around. Take some firebrand USA haters and some cash, you never know what they will come up with.

America needs to quit thinking our enemies are a bunch or uneducated camel jockies. Bin Laden, for one, is highly educated, and he isn’t the only one.

Sure, they have their wingnuts, but we do too.


156 posted on 08/15/2007 9:59:46 AM PDT by wrench
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To: Kaslin; Brucifer

*ping*


157 posted on 08/15/2007 10:02:07 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: wideawake
"You are a known clown whose opinion is meaningless."

I hereby expose you as a plagiarist who stole that line from a piece of papper in a fortune cookie!!!! 8~)

158 posted on 08/15/2007 10:02:59 AM PDT by tracer
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To: wideawake
[.. Scaremongering by a clueless asshat. ..]

You sound like someone a day before 9/11..
Amused at the concept of two planes hitting the trade towers and the trade towers falling down going BOOM..

SLAP SLAP Wake up.. This could happen.. A mere theater nuke in say Detroit/Chicago or New Yawk City would have devastating results on the economy, finacial system, and scare the living hell out of literally EVERYONE.. i.e. successful TERRORISM..

After then the terrorists would have to merely threaten..
-OR- someone would be elected to nuke back in return..

Thats when the terrorists would attack MALLS, schools or some other people gathering sites.. or bridges or dams..

CLUELESS?... Denial is not a river in Egypt..

159 posted on 08/15/2007 10:03:17 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: rbg81

“Unfortunately, I don’t think even a nuke going off would wake this country out of its stupor. After one nuke, you’d have the NYT (if NY got nukes, substitute the WAPOST of LATIMES) calling for immediate negotiations, urging restraint, and stressing the many benefits of diversity and free-trade. Maybe if they took out Washington DC, NY, Boston, and LA it would do the trick. Very sad, but I suspect true. The reality-free liberal mindset is so entrenched in this country that it would take the death of a massive number of them to spur action.”
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I agree with you 110%


160 posted on 08/15/2007 10:03:48 AM PDT by PEACE ENFORCER (One needs to have the capability of using Deadly Force at ANY moment.......:))
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