Paul Right, Romney Wrong on Iraq and 9/11

John Birch Society ^ | 8-8-07 | Gary Benoit

[Siobhan]

Ah yes, fluoridation of water ... a gift to America from Nazi science used in the death camps...

[humblegunner]

The neoconservatives promoted this war many, many years before it was started," Paul said during the debate. "It had nothing to do with al-Qaeda. There was no al-Qaeda in Iraq."

Osama said the same thing.

Paul is a terrorist apologist.

[kabar]

we never responded to the Cole or many other attacks

And what did Ron Paul say or do at the time? Was he advocating that the US invade Afghanistan to take out AQ?

I’m pretty sure Paul wouldn’t let that stand like our other leaders did. Nor would he let future attacks stand.

Yeah, right. He was elected to Congress in 1996 and took office in January 1997. Bin laden had issued his declaration of war against us in his 1996 fatwa. And our embassies were attacked in 1998. What was Ron Paul's response to these attacks? Why did he vote against the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998? Why did he vote against the 1997 U.S.-Taiwan Missile Defense Cooperation bill?

Ron Paul is weak on national security issues and defense.

[humblegunner]

go a long way toward getting Ron Paul the respect and recognition that he deserves.

As a cut-and-run apologist, perhaps.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

And of course the best way to do that is remove the secular government and establish one based partially on a crazy religion right?

Or to give $20 billion in weapons to the country in which 15 of the 19 hijackers hailed from.

[soccermom]

“I’m pretty sure Paul wouldn’t let that stand like our other leaders did. Nor would he let future attacks stand.” LOL! I don’t know what makes you think he would have gone after the terrorists over the Cole. It is pretty clear from Paul’s speeches that he considered the Cole attack a “warning” — but the context of his speech suggests that his answer to that “warning” was not to go after the terrorists, but to pull out of the Middle East.

[Siobhan]

Kind of reminds one of bin Laden being in Dubai before 9/11 for medical care. I don’t recall know what the story in the British Press said precisely, but I think he was treated at the American Hospital. Oh well, Dubai wasn’t in the crosshairs after all we were going to give them our ports...

[Siobhan]

Of course, the doctrine of pre-emption is incompatible with official Roman Catholic as well as classical teaching on just war theory. The doctrine of pre-emption does open the door to other states making the same sorts of claims whether they are factual or not.

[kabar]

Or to give $20 billion in weapons to the country in which 15 of the 19 hijackers hailed from.

We are not giving Saudi Arabia anything. They are paying full price. The Saudi Royal family is a prime target of AQ, which wants to remove them from power. The government of Saudi Arabia is not the enemy. We have UK citizens who have been involved in terrorist plots against us. Do we hold the government of the UK responsible?

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

How about us stop sticking our noses into the Middle East completely after we take out the trash. Stop giving weapons to Saudi Arabia or saving Kuwait’s ass. I don’t care about a bunch of people who blow themselves up to make a point, apparently you do, you want us to “give” freedom to the Iraqi people who seem to don’t want it. We should have left after we captured Saddam and concentrated more of our forces along the Afghan-Pakistani border. Let the various Muslim sects kill each other.

[Siobhan]

And the Saudi money keeps rolling in to build Wahabbist mosques, Islamic centers, and camps all across the USA ... which makes no sense at all when the terrorist originate from Saudi Wahabbist Islam.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

And our embassies were attacked in 1998. What was Ron Paul's response to these attacks?

What was Slick's response? Paul wasn't commander-in-chief you know.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

The Saudi Royal family is a prime target of AQ, which wants to remove them from power.

Where's the video clip of Clinton's phony tears at?

The government of Saudi Arabia is not the enemy.

And illegal aliens are just here to do the jobs Americans won't do.

[jveritas]

Just war theory? Roman Catholic teaching? The United States of America must defend herself when it is required and before the threat is imminent.

If tyrannical/terrorist regimes such as Iran or Syria or North Korea try to do pre-emptive wars then they must be destroyed pre-emptively by the United States.

[soccermom]

"Or to give $20 billion in weapons to the country in which 15 of the 19 hijackers hailed from." Once again, the simplistic logic of the lefties/aPaulogists never ceases to amaze me. You do understand that the nationality of the terrorists is irrelevant, unless that nation ordered the attack, don't you? It's like saying Italy (not Spain) sponsored the expedition of the Nina, the Pinta and the Santa Maria, because Columbus is Italian! You do understand that the Saudi terrorists, like Bin Laden, were dissidents of Saudi Arabia, don't you? You do understand that the whole reason they were dissidents is because Saudi Arabia sided with the evil Americans and allowed the evil Americans on their soil in the first Gulf War, don't you? To imply that the Saudi government was somehow responsible for the attack, based on the nationality of the terrorists, is like saying the U.S. government was responsible for the OKC attack because McVeigh was an American.

[jrooney]

The Russians have an arms deal with Iran for 20 billion plus dollars. We are off setting the influence of the Iraninas and the Russians by assisting the Saudis. IMO I am glad we are doing it. I do not want the Iranians and Russians influence growing there. The Saudis are not calling for the extermination of Israel. Iran is and the Russians would allow it to happen.

[John Leland 1789]

It annoys me to see these guys waste so much popcorn.

[jveritas]

Man EEE, I cannot stop laughing, did you think of being a comedian? I am sure you will be a superstar in a month or two if you try it. (extreme sarcasm)

[Siobhan]

Just war is a basic principle. Justify pre-emption for your own nation, and another nation like a great Russian bear will use the same to justify pre-emptive strikes. Such has already happened many times. We used to condemn it, but now it is “the Bush doctrine” and it is a terrible mistake in tactics and philosophy.