One Million-Years-Old (Human) Footprints Found At Margalla Hills (Pakistan)

Dawn ^ | 7-27-2007 | Sher Baz Khan

[Mr. Mojo]

There's a place for you in the Gullible Hall of Fame.

First ballot.

[Creationist]

As is with your faith in the religion of evolution.

[sodpoodle]

I’m not going there!

Neither a pharisee or a photospectrometrist.

[Creationist]

Then why would you assume I am gullible

[sodpoodle]

I don’t assume you are gullible - you’re not, are you?

[Creationist]

http://www.icr.org/article/200/

[gondramB]

>>Well, it is either Creation OR Evolution. Can’t be BOTH. And I do not believe in evolution or Big Bang. To believe that you must believe that a hurricane or tornado goes through a junk yard and a 747 jet is formed by the tornado.<<

The very first life could have been (and I believe was) created. But clearly live on earth started small and similar and developed (or evolved, if you will) over billions of years to the current state of abundant diverse life.

Young earth creation is incompatible with evolution, that’s different (and not science based)

[Creationist]

It depends upon the one who is evaluating me.

I do not believe in evolution in any form.

I do not believe in Global warming as per that man is causing it or could change it.
I we are going to reduce green house gases we are going to have to remove all the trees that drop leaves as decomposing leaves create gas, we will have to dry up the oceans as they are one of the big producers of these gases.
Though it is written that in the last days the sun would scorch man.

[Manic_Episode]

A million years my hairy(_|_)

[gondramB]

>>
And Coyotemans Radiometric dating is a science of unprovable tests. Where is a test specimen that one can calibrate these test by.<<

Actually I’ve done radiometric dating - there is an error band around estimates but since no natural process can speed up or slow down decay its pretty darn accurate - and checkable with recent samples. Its also repeatable and can be checked by various teams.

[Creationist]

Young earth creation is very science backed.

Every creature and plant produces after its own kind as stated in Genesis.

There is not one intermediate fossil any where in the world.

Evolution does not fit with the Genesis account at all and calls God a liar. Evolution requires death for the next species to come about. And the Bible clearly states that through the sin of Adam death came about.

Also billion of years is not biblical.
Evolution has land animals before birds, Creation has birds before land animals. Evolution has plants before fish, creation has fish before plants.

So it is not a case by your belief of evolution or creation but what form of origins are you comfortable with, as your logical mind will not allow a big bang of nothing creating everything.

[Coyoteman]

Young earth creation is very science backed.

False. Young earth creationism is a denial of science.

Every creature and plant produces after its own kind as stated in Genesis.

False. "Baraminology" is a religious-based attempt to make "kinds" seem scientific. It is a failure as science because, as its proponents admit, scripture claims have priority over all other considerations.

There is not one intermediate fossil any where in the world.

False. This is an intermediate fossil. Note its position in the chart which follows (hint--in the right center):

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Fossil: KNM-ER 3733

Site: Koobi Fora (Upper KBS tuff, area 104), Lake Turkana, Kenya (4, 1)

Discovered By: B. Ngeneo, 1975 (1)

Estimated Age of Fossil: 1.75 mya * determined by Stratigraphic, faunal, paleomagnetic & radiometric data (1, 4)

Species Name: Homo ergaster (1, 7, 8), Homo erectus (3, 4, 7), Homo erectus ergaster (25)

Gender: Female (species presumed to be sexually dimorphic) (1, 8)

Cranial Capacity: 850 cc (1, 3, 4)

Information: Tools found in same layer (8, 9). Found with KNM-ER 406 A. boisei (effectively eliminating single species hypothesis) (1)

Interpretation: Adult (based on cranial sutures, molar eruption and dental wear) (1)

See original source for notes:
Source: http://www.mos.org/evolution/fossils/fossilview.php?fid=33

Source

[gondramB]

>>Evolution does not fit with the Genesis account at all and calls God a liar. <<

When someone claims to know God absolutely and equate disagreeing with them to doing wrong to God there is almost always some negative motive. At the very least their vision of God is too small and their view of them self is too large.

>>There is not one intermediate fossil any where in the world.<<

That is such a blatantly false statement there is not much point in us talking further. I wish you well but there’s no point in talking to you if you can start with basic honesty.

[Creationist]

Sorry but you have a presupposition of a science that is very young compared to the half life's of the particles you test.

You have an assumption that the way it is now is the way it has always been.

We understand less than .000001% of radioactive decay based upon the amount of time of study. Magnetic decay of the earths field has been studied and measured for over 150 years with a half life of 1400 years, that gives us about a 10% understanding of the field.

Once the parameters of decay rate have been set there has been very little expense spent to determine if any events today can speed up or slow down decay rates.
There have been some that have shown magnetics can change decay rates.

I am also sure that any tests you have done in this field has always has a target date you or others expect, and any subject that did not fit was considered to have been contaminated.

[Creationist]

I do not view my self as large, and God small.

God is all powerful able to create the Universe as stated within the pages of the Bible, 6 days of work one day of rest the work week. Also he put into place the law of conservation when he finished no matter created or destroyed.

There is not one intermediate fossil, only dead bones, your interpretation of the dead bones allows you to believe in intermediates, but it is just dead bones.

You can not with all your might prove that a certain bone when alive gave birth to a different kind of creature other than itself, or if it even had any offspring of any kind. You must assume and speculate an outcome.
The history you adhere to is faith based and unrepeatable, unprovable. This is why you must quit as you have not an evolutionary leg to stand upon.

[Creationist]

I do not view my self as large, and God small.

God is all powerful able to create the Universe as stated within the pages of the Bible, 6 days of work one day of rest the work week. Also he put into place the law of conservation when he finished no matter created or destroyed.

There is not one intermediate fossil, only dead bones, your interpretation of the dead bones allows you to believe in intermediates, but it is just dead bones.

You can not with all your might prove that a certain bone when alive gave birth to a different kind of creature other than itself, or if it even had any offspring of any kind. You must assume and speculate an outcome.
The history you adhere to is faith based and unrepeatable, unprovable. This is why you must quit as you have not an evolutionary leg to stand upon.

[Maelstorm]

Hahaha ahhh Helen Thomas. If only her questions were scary. lol

[GladesGuru]

Prepare for another boring evos v crevos flame war.

I am going to put on the popcorn and another cup of coffee.

[sodpoodle]

“””””I believe the Bible to be the word of God given to man to write down for us to read over and over...””””

Is it possible that some things that were written down by mortal man/men have been misinterpreted or lost in translation....??? i.e. forms of measurement - time and distance.

The hand is only used to measure horses.

The fathom is only used to measure the depth of water.

A speed of 1 nautical mile per hour is 1 knot. The nautical mile is important internationally, due to air and sea transport. 6080 feet equals 1853.18 metres, but the new International nautical mile is defined now as 1852 metres.

It is obvious from the definition above that the rod is a strange unit - it is only of use in describing areas, as below. The rod is also known as the pole, the perch, and the lugg.

Prior to the 14th century, the league was normally taken as a 1½ statute miles, or (better) as 12 furlongs. After the 14th century, a length of 3 miles became the norm - a league at sea would be 3 nautical miles, and on land 3 statute miles.

Some people say that the plural of ‘foot’ should be ‘feet’ - use what sounds best to you.

I am humble enough to consider it.

[Creationist]

It is actually Faith based origins by nothing exploding then evolving vs Faith based origins of God created it all in six days approximately 6000 years ago.

The scientific evidence fits creation much better and science does not have to keep self correcting every time a new discovery is made.