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Broader Privilege Claimed In Firings
Washington Post ^
| Friday, July 20, 2007
| By Dan Eggen and Amy Goldstein
Posted on 07/20/2007 8:52:39 AM PDT by gondramB
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This is deadly serious. Its the Washington Post so we need other sources. But if the President really take the position that Justice Department "will never be allowed to pursue contempt charges initiated by Congress against White House officials" its going to be hard to take any position except the President is actively engaged in obstruction of justice. This could lead to lengthy, divisive and distracting impeachment proceedings.
Even though conviction seems impossible it will not be good for the country.
Hopefully the Press has this wrong of the President will back off. The President can fire all the attorneys he wants - that's (unfortunately a political position. Tell the Justice Department they cannot pursue charges against the White House would be viewed as political interference in an investigation of which he is a target - that sounds a whole lot like obstruction of justice.
Hopefully the story is wrong.
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posted on
07/20/2007 8:52:43 AM PDT
by
gondramB
To: gondramB
I guess they don’t understand ‘at the pleasure of the President’.
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posted on
07/20/2007 8:59:45 AM PDT
by
wastedyears
(Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
To: gondramB
It’ll be interesting to hear Mark Levin’s opinion on this tonight...
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posted on
07/20/2007 9:00:16 AM PDT
by
COBOL2Java
(The Democrat Party: radical Islam's last hope)
To: gondramB
Looks like a convoluted “double entendre” - wherein the justice department cannot pursue charges proffered by congressional democrats based on a fictitious belief that the president does not, and cannot assert “executive privilege” or terminate anyone that serves only “at the pleasure of the president”.
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posted on
07/20/2007 9:00:19 AM PDT
by
xcamel
("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
To: gondramB
Yep, if the Justice Department can’t do it, then all that’s left is an endless stream of “Special Prosecutors” - and that is certainly a failed experiment.
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posted on
07/20/2007 9:01:30 AM PDT
by
glorgau
To: gondramB
Let them bring on Impeachment. If the American people punished the Republicans for bringing on Impeachment of Clinton during a time of false, then let’s see how the America people react toward Congress if they go for impeachment during a time of dire war.
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posted on
07/20/2007 9:04:30 AM PDT
by
pacelvi
To: wastedyears
The president can definitely fire the attorneys, it’s certainly his pleasure, — but when their terms are up for renewal, NOT in the middle of their terms.
That is the big difference here.
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posted on
07/20/2007 9:10:53 AM PDT
by
andrew7
To: gondramB
From the article:
It concluded: The President, through a United States Attorney, need not, indeed may not, prosecute criminally a subordinate for asserting on his behalf a claim of executive privilege. Nor could the Legislative Branch or the courts require or implement the prosecution of such an individual.
Ted Olson
You are being hysterical. The President has claimed executive privilege in this case. If the congress disagrees that executive privilege applies then they can take that to the courts. What would the point of a privilege be if the congress could still compel testimony or documents claimed under the privilege?
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posted on
07/20/2007 9:11:46 AM PDT
by
free me
(Enforce the borders, then we'll talk...)
To: gondramB
There is nothing in the constitution that gives congress oversight of the executive branch.
This is a fishing expedition by congress. Its politically motivated and nothing illegal has been done. So, its not obstruction of justice.
If they had evidence that an illegal act occurred then I might be inclined to see your point of view.
To: andrew7
...but when their terms are up for renewal, NOT in the middle of their terms Please show us your source for this law.
US attorneys serve at the pleasure of the President. Period.
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posted on
07/20/2007 9:15:35 AM PDT
by
free me
(Enforce the borders, then we'll talk...)
To: andrew7
That I didn’t know. Thanks for pointing it out.
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posted on
07/20/2007 9:15:59 AM PDT
by
wastedyears
(Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
To: gondramB
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posted on
07/20/2007 9:18:36 AM PDT
by
jude24
(Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
To: andrew7
No, they are at will employees, who can be fired for any reason, including no reason at all, at any time.
This is purely a matter within the powers of the President and not subject to congressional interference.
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posted on
07/20/2007 9:22:01 AM PDT
by
mak5
To: gondramB
The Congress is wrong. The Executive had the authority to hire and fire these attys. at will. This dimwitted, politically motivated Congress is wasting its time and our money. They need to be caged. Of course, the Ex. Branch invited this by not nipping it in the bud and by hanging Gonzales in the wind in the first place.
Congress has absolutely no authority to go on a hunting expedition amongst the Ex. Branch papers with NO hint of wrong doing.
vaudine
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posted on
07/20/2007 9:28:40 AM PDT
by
vaudine
(RO)
To: andrew7
The president can definitely fire the attorneys, its certainly his pleasure, but when their terms are up for renewal, NOT in the middle of their terms. That is the big difference here.Where did you get this? That is totally wrong.
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posted on
07/20/2007 9:30:20 AM PDT
by
Logical me
(Oh, well!!!)
To: gondramB
...its going to be hard to take any position except the President is actively engaged in obstruction of justice... B*llSh!t gondram! The President must protect the U.S. Constitution and the Executive Office. The U.S. Congress can not compel the Office of the President which includes the advisers! It is the Democrat Congress that is usurping power it does not legitimately hold.
To: gondramB
"Congress has no power to force a U.S. attorney to pursue contempt charges in cases, such as the prosecutor firings, in which the president has declared that testimony or documents are protected from release by executive privilege."
To: andrew7
What a load of crap. Please cite the law.
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posted on
07/20/2007 9:57:34 AM PDT
by
pacelvi
To: gondramB
This story is pure spin.
Congress is trying to weaking the presidential power to just a “policeman at the pleasure of congress”.
They want to push a parlamentary system of governance where the house speaker, SELECTED by politicians rather than LEGAL VOTERS, is the head of the USA.
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posted on
07/20/2007 10:01:05 AM PDT
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: wastedyears
Monica did! LOL ;)
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posted on
07/20/2007 11:04:42 AM PDT
by
cdnerds
(cdnerds.com)
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